Vista Movie Maker and my Digital Video Camera

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Music, Pictures and Video' started by Howard, Feb 26, 2007.

  1. Howard

    Howard Guest

    I plugged in my Sony Digital Video Camera through the USB port and Movie
    Maker refuses to acknokledge the hook up is there.

    I followed the suggestions listed in the Help section, turning my camera on
    and making sure it is in play mode etc.

    Can anyone help?
     
    Howard, Feb 26, 2007
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  2. As far as I know, MovieMaker doesn't work with USB cameras, only IEEE 1394
    (FireWire) or composite video.

    Dana Cline - MCE MVP
     
    Dana Cline - MVP, Feb 26, 2007
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  3. Dana is right, which make and model cam is it?
     
    Graham Hughes, Feb 27, 2007
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  4. Hi Graham

    I have the same problem as Howard mentioned. I have a Sony TRV250E - which
    records digitally to 8mm tape, rather than a memory stick or card. It used
    to work fine under XP Home/MovieMaker on the USB connection, but now under
    Vista it just doesn't recognise it.

    I've been on to Sony's website, and there's no new drivers or software for
    use with Vista, so I reloaded the drivers for XP into Vista. I can't speak
    for how it was before, but I can see and use the video camera in Live
    Messenger quite happily on USB, including playing from the video tape, but it
    just doesn't want to accept the video stream in MovieMaker.

    The annoying thing is that when you read the Help files in MM, it says "If
    you have a DV camera that supports streaming over USB (also called a USB
    Video Class [UVC] camera), you can connect the video camera to your computer
    by using a USB 2.0 connection. To determine whether your DV camera supports
    USB streaming over DV, check Windows Device Manager and determine if the
    camera appears as a "USB Video Device," or check the documentation that came
    with your DV camera or go to the manufacturer's Web site."

    Neither option is of much help. The camera appears as an 'Imaging device'
    along with my logitech webcam, and it also appears as a USB Audio device
    under the 'Sound, Video and Game Controllers section'.

    Any clues?
     
    Nigel Brooke-Smith, Mar 13, 2007
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  5. Hi Graham

    I have the same problem as Howard mentioned. I have a Sony TRV250E - which
    records digitally to 8mm tape, rather than a memory stick or card. It used
    to work fine under XP Home/MovieMaker on the USB connection, but now under
    Vista it just doesn't recognise it.

    I've been on to Sony's website, and there's no new drivers or software for
    use with Vista, so I reloaded the drivers for XP into Vista. I can't speak
    for how it was before, but I can see and use the video camera in Live
    Messenger quite happily on USB, including playing from the video tape, but it
    just doesn't want to accept the video stream in MovieMaker.

    The annoying thing is that when you read the Help files in MM, it says "If
    you have a DV camera that supports streaming over USB (also called a USB
    Video Class [UVC] camera), you can connect the video camera to your computer
    by using a USB 2.0 connection. To determine whether your DV camera supports
    USB streaming over DV, check Windows Device Manager and determine if the
    camera appears as a "USB Video Device," or check the documentation that came
    with your DV camera or go to the manufacturer's Web site."

    Neither option is of much help. The camera appears as an 'Imaging device'
    along with my logitech webcam, and it also appears as a USB Audio device
    under the 'Sound, Video and Game Controllers section'.

    Any clues?
     
    Nigel Brooke-Smith, Mar 13, 2007
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  6. Howard

    Chris M Guest

    I also have the same issue only with an IEEE connection. I've gone so far as
    to try 3 different video capture programs (including Adobe Premier) and none
    of them will capture from my Sony DV. What is interesting is that I can
    control the device (play/FF/rewind) but cannot import the video. In Movie
    Maker I can semi-capture in the spacehog AVI format, but it then is an
    unreadable file in any software (I learned this after a 1 hour capture). The
    other offered formats rewind the tape and then I get an error called "N/A"
    which I had not seen before. The device shows in control panel under system
    devices, but not in Explorer. I've replaced the 4-pin to 4-pin cable thinking
    that was the issue. I am now at wit's end.... I hope a solution comes out
    which is why I am adding to this thread. Wish I could have offered the answer.
     
    Chris M, Apr 13, 2007
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  7. Howard

    Shack69 Guest

     
    Shack69, Apr 25, 2007
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  8. On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:36:04 -0700, Shack69

    For what it's worth, issues controlling the camera and having it
    perform correctly is fairly common... even with professional grade
    software. In order to "capture" a video stream from ANY digital camera
    and do so WITHOUT dropping frames or having the audio get out of sync
    most devices must have a 100% compliant firewire interface. The sad
    reality is many computers and some cameras do not work well together.
    This is one of those why the heck don't they kind of questions. I've
    seen the same kind of issue in many video forums get raised, so it
    isn't limited to Movie Maker. Often the real issue isn't the camera's
    fault, but the interface on the computer end.

    I can't say for sure this is your problem, but the interface is often
    the source of all kinds of weird issues.

    For example I had a varation of this problem myself with a Canon
    camera. The computer I was using had a build-in IEEE connector right
    on the motherboard, so you would think that would be 100% compliant
    and fully up to specs. It wasn't. I spend hours on the phone talking
    to so-called "tech support" and we all know the typical run around and
    lame information you typically get from that source unless you happen
    to get lucky and finally get connected to sombody that actually knows
    what they're talking about.

    No matter what I did the interface only worked one way. It has been
    years, so I forget which, but either the import or export didn't work
    with it dropping frames like crazy making it useless but it worked
    fine going the other way.

    ONLY after I disabled the onboard IEEE (firewire) connector on the
    motherboard and replaced with what I KNEW for sure was a good and
    totally compliant firewire card that was 100% up to specs did the
    problem go away. Such cards are typically cheap and in the $20-40
    range. I've upgraded to a new computer, so I don't use that card
    anymore and don't have it handy, probably discontinued by now anyway.
    One known good maker of such cards is SIIG, that makes all kinds of
    external boards for USB, Firewire, etc..

    Don't recall if this is the exact model I had, but it looks very
    similar. The key thing to look for is compliance with IEEE 1394-1995,
    1394a-2000 and OHCI 1.1 standards. This card meets all of them.

    http://www.siig.com/product.asp?catid=1&pid=372
     
    Adam Albright, Apr 25, 2007
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  9. Howard

    RatDoc Guest

    I have the same problem using a JVC GR-D30U mini-dv camera. I can control
    the camera within Moviemaker and the program will go through the motions of
    captruing the video but at the end of the capture the captured file is empty.
    I am running Vista Ultimate. Haven't found a solution yet and I had no such
    problem when I was using XP professional.
     
    RatDoc, Jun 2, 2007
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  10. Howard

    Trentster Guest

    I am having the same problem with my JVC. I can control but not capture video
     
    Trentster, Jun 2, 2007
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  11. Howard

    richard Guest

    This seems to be a common problem in here and so far I have not seen any
    response. I wonder if any Microsfot people look in here if so do you have an
    answer.
     
    richard, Jun 7, 2007
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  12. Howard

    zeroneff Guest

    Im sorry but it seems that windows Movie maker or Midea player wont work with
    any Mpeg video Format...
    and im not using USB ports... I use fire wire to upload from my HVR-A1U(and
    yes it's in dv mode).. Same thing happens with Uploading it shuts down... I
    have all the right drivers and everything

    "
     
    zeroneff, Jul 7, 2007
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  13. Howard

    PapaJohn Guest

    What's your version of Vista?
     
    PapaJohn, Jul 7, 2007
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  14. Howard

    zeroneff Guest

    Make sure that you're drivers are install... If not go to the sony soppert
    site to get one. If that dose not work then go and buy you're self some new
    software. Vista is a good one with high quality
     
    zeroneff, Jul 16, 2007
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  15. Howard,

    I don't have a solution to your problem. I too have a sony camera that hooks
    to a USB port. Although the Windows XP version of Movie Maker used to detect
    the camera, the newer Vista version does not. Sadly, my web camera which I
    also used frequently to capture video using Movie Maker also does not work. I
    am hopeful that Microsoft will realize this problem and will release a patch.
    I have my fingers crossed.
     
    technochrista, Jul 20, 2007
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  16. Howard

    andrew Guest

    hi,
    i also have a sony DCR-P6E camrecorder and like you i also cannot get
    my laptop to register that a dv cam is connected either by USB or S-video
    although this did work on XP. i have checked the sony web site for vista
    compatable drivers but none are avaible have sent them an e-mail with this
    problem but have not heard back from them yet.

    any ideas are welcome
     
    andrew, Jul 22, 2007
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  17. Movie Maker in XP and Vista is not really designed to work with USB or
    analogue sources, so you were lucky to have it working in XP and it's not
    really going to happen in Vista. Can't you use the app which came with you
    cam to capture?
     
    Graham Hughes, Jul 23, 2007
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  18. Howard

    solartaco Guest

    Have JVC GR-D93, PCI Firewire card. Worked fine with XP. Blank preview
    windows in Vista. Can control camera, just not capture. Nice job Microsoft.
     
    solartaco, Jul 31, 2007
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  19. Howard

    Dave Guest

    It's up to JVC to make their products work with Vista. Have you checked to
    see if they have Vista compatible drivers and software?
     
    Dave, Jul 31, 2007
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  20. Howard

    Jeffray L Guest

    Dear friend!

    I understand your problem and I think I can help.

    Well sometimes it can be really hard even impossible to collect videos
    straight from your camera. I mean especially when you don't have one of the
    latest computer with a C.P.U over 3 Ghz or when you do not have enough ram
    but don't worry I got a solution for you.

    FIRST : Collect your video camera using your USB wire ( you should be able
    to see an icon on your control panel. )

    SECOND : Go to the Video folder and now created a new file wich you can give
    the tittle of your choice "Exp My 2 Weeks Vacation in Europe
    !!! 2007" ;)
    When it's done just minimize your page.

    THIRD : Go back to the control panel and click on the icon of you camera.
    "You should see all the available videos.
    Just copy than go back to the file you just created and past.
    I sure hope you got a big hard disk. . .maybe more than one or at least more
    than one partition.
    So I suggest you "if that is possible to you" not to put this file on the
    partition C. This operation may takes a few minutes to complete but you will
    find this much more easier to do whatever you want with your videos using
    Windows Movie Maker.

    I sure hope you got enough ram on your computer because both Windows Vista
    and Movie Maker needs a lot of ram. . .I mean sometimes 1 GB is not enough. .
    ..hard to believe but I've made a test and now I got 2 GB and I never had so
    much fun working with Movie Maker. I mean I can make a video in half the time
    even with a lot of special effects and stuff.

    I hope this can be helpful to you.

    Friendly Jeffray L

    P.S: Sorry for my english!!! :)
     
    Jeffray L, Aug 8, 2007
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