Vista Really slow, what could be a problem !

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by abcd, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. Classic example why Mike Hall is just a airhead.

    Somebody has a general issue with Vista, Hall responds "nobody forced
    you to buy Vista".

    Somebody has a issue with some hardware, Hall's responds "Isn't
    Microsoft's fault, contact the vendor".

    Somebody has a issue with some software, Hall responds, "you didn't do
    research first"

    Honest Mike, you're in the wrong line of work. You should seriously
    consider politics. You ability to make empty excuses to every question
    is a talent that's wasted here.
     
    Adam Albright, Apr 24, 2007
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  2. Set your sights on yet another Vista newsgroup, have you?


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    Mike Hall
    MS MVP Windows Shell/User
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
     
    Mike Hall MVP, Apr 24, 2007
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  3. abcd

    KilrPilr Guest

    WTF kind of answer is that? You are telling him to uninstall his antivirus?
    Not even suggesting one to replace with? I demand your resignation!! Thats
    just completely bad advice with serious repercusions that will only cost the
    person who you have given this absolutely bad advice to. I certainly hope u
    dont speak for all MS mvp's. This is disgusting. :(
     
    KilrPilr, Apr 25, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    I'm always amazed at those who tell people to uninstall Norton. Everyone
    claims that Norton is the slow down. I beg to differ. I have Norton and I
    check my running processes often. Norton very rarely has more than 1% of the
    cpu usage or more than a few mb or ram.

    On the contrary, I find that IE7 is the big hog on my system. i also found
    that it does not release ram like it is supposed to do. I routinely find IE7
    with 75% of the cpu usage and over 100 mb of ram. I have to close IE7 and
    then ctrl+alt+del to get the task manager and I still find IE7 runnning. As
    far as I'm concerned, Vista runs great until I spend some time on IE.

    Norton rocks. 7 years running without a single virus, spyware, trojan, back
    door or other malware. I guess it really matters how you take care of your
    system.
     
    Steve, Apr 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Sorry, but if you have NIS installed or are using 2005, 2006 then you're
    wasting LOTS of CPU time. I installed Norton AV 2006 (not NIS, just NAV
    2006) in a small office of 6 computers, it brought them to a standstill on
    their computers. Replaced it with Symantec Corp AV 10.0 and it was
    night-day different.

    Ever machine I've experienced running NAV, since version 2004, and ALL
    Machines running NIS, benefit from having it removed and some other AV
    solution installed.
     
    Leythos, Apr 25, 2007
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    Rock Guest

    I don't know about the latest release running on Vista, Norton 360, but
    their XP offerings, NAV and NIS, are horrible, resource hogs, that generally
    lead to other problems. I know of no one that recommends those products.
    There is always the individual who hasn't had operational problems with
    them, but at the very least they are bloated and resource heavy, a fact that
    is well known.

    Based on that I wouldn't let any of the Norton Home products near any
    computers, either XP or Vista. That said if their newer offering does a
    better job and it is shown to be so, I might be more inclined to recommend
    them, but not at this stage.

    Some with McAfee's offerings.

    Right now I have ten tabs open in IE7, with Windows Mail, a word processer,
    and task manager. CPU usage for IE7 isn't even registering. Been running
    for about six hours now with no issues.
     
    Rock, Apr 25, 2007
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    Lord Takyon Guest


    Norton is bloated, and Mcafee almost always causes slowdown. They are OK at
    what they do, they just do it very inefficiently. There are several decent
    free scanners that are very resource light, and that is what I want fo
    something that is running all the time.

    My daughter got a laptop via her school, McAfee was using around 40% cpu and
    almost 80 meg RAM, same setup with other laptops purchased this way, first
    thing I did was got rid of it and the system speed improved dramatically.
     
    Lord Takyon, Apr 25, 2007
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Norton and McAfee's antivirus programs are known performance dogs. Between
    them they cause a large majority of compatibility and resource issues seen
    in this and other groups. They should be uninstalled and replaced with one
    of the many available programs that have a much lighter footprint on the
    system.
     
    Rick Rogers, Apr 25, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    It is also a very well documented fact that Norton and McAfee can cause very
    serious problems with Vista's Windows Mail.
     
    Cal Bear '66, Apr 25, 2007
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  10. Try Windows Live Messenger - it's the Messenger replacement and should run
    fine on Vista. What was the other MS app? It might be an old one, as I've
    got all the current consumer apps running on Vista right now.

    Dana Cline - MCE MVP
     
    Dana Cline - MVP, Apr 25, 2007
    #30
  11. As you can see from the other responses, Frank isn't the only one who
    believes Norton is bad. I think there's at least 3 MVPs in this thread that
    will agree it should be uninstalled in favor of another solution. I use AVG
    and Avast on my XP and MCE systems, NOD32 on my Vista systems, and am quite
    happy with their performance and stability.

    Demanding our resignation? Aside from the fact you're in no position to
    "demand" anything, what are we supposed to resign from? We're not Microsoft
    employees...

    Dana Cline - MCE MVP
     
    Dana Cline - MVP, Apr 25, 2007
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    Retired Guest

    At least Mike did not resort to name-calling, as you did ("airhead"). Your
    credibility is zip, Mike's is still intact.
     
    Retired, Apr 25, 2007
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  13. I couldn't care less what the dummy squad thinks. Mike's credibility
    is crap. Yep, it still is intact if you like shit throwers.

    Let's break down the various groups of posters that are regulars here:

    1. Screwdriver jockeys. These guys fancy themselves "expert" because
    they laughingly claim they "build" systems. News Flash... all that
    is necessary to assemble a PC computer from scratch is obtain the
    parts, them put them together. Total time; 20 minutes tops, any
    semi-intelligent ten year old kid can do it.

    2. IT "professionals". What a hoot. These self-proclaimed
    "professionals" are so key to the organization they work for they
    can spend hours a day blabbering in this and similar newsgroups.
    If these guys are so hot, how it is they have so much free time to
    mess around? I rarely had time to go to lunch.

    3. Most MVPs, come from groups #1 and #2. There is no testing,
    they are picked by people already MVPs, a simple I'll scratch your
    back if you promise to scratch mine kind of little club. Useless.

    4. Hobbyists. Actually this group can be quite well informed.

    5. Experienced users. People that have used Windows since the
    beginning. Often have built many systems and is the guy called
    by all the neighbors to "fix" their computers. Often has long
    work experince writing software applications, designing hardware.
    Could have worked in some IT department, may still work there, or
    have been responsible for supervising a major company's operations.

    Yea, I'm in group #5. If you can take the plain unvarnished truth,
    I'll tell ya. If you want some bullshit, ask a MVP or any of the
    fakers that hang out here. They're always good for laughs.
     
    Adam Albright, Apr 25, 2007
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    Bob Guest

    Get rid of Norton...


     
    Bob, Apr 25, 2007
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    Ian Guest

    Vista is ridiculously slow on good hardware. Hell, I was even able to kind of
    get used to it for a while and I thought it was pretty quick. Then I hooked
    my older PC with maybe 1/3 the hardware capabilities and BAM! I remembed what
    quick was! Vista is a slow hobbling embarassment.
     
    Ian, Apr 25, 2007
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