"Vista Service Pack 1 testers requested"

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007.

  1. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest

    According to several reputable sources
    ( http://apcmag.com/5098/microsoft_kick_starts_vista_sp1)
    MSFT is looking for Vista SP1 testers, even before Vista launches.

    Quote:

    ---
    " The company has put out a call for "customers and partners (to) actively test and
    provide feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to help us prepare for its release in the
    second half of CY07 (calendar year 2007)."
    Microsoft hasn't released details of exactly what changes will be wrought in Vista
    SP1, which has been assigned the codename 'Fiji' but some OS components which missed
    the RTM cut-off will almost certainly be rolled into the update.

    One of the candidates for this better-late-than-never brigade would be the Windows
    PowerShell, previously Microsoft Shell -- a .NET-based command line shell with its
    own scripting language.

    However, the Redmond clarion call declares that "regressions from Windows Vista and
    Windows XP, security, deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the
    primary focus for the Service Pack."

    So, yes, the still not-yet-released Vista has "high impact issues".

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    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
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  2. Vista has launched and has been available to business customers since
    November 2006.
    There have already been customers deployed in live use with final code
    in the area of tens of thousands of seats per customer since last
    year.
     
    Mike Brannigan, Jan 25, 2007
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  3. EU XP user

    mikeyhsd Guest

    what I read is it is for the TAP program.
    special requirements.







    According to several reputable sources
    ( http://apcmag.com/5098/microsoft_kick_starts_vista_sp1)
    MSFT is looking for Vista SP1 testers, even before Vista launches.

    Quote:

    ---
    " The company has put out a call for "customers and partners (to) actively test and
    provide feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to help us prepare for its release in the
    second half of CY07 (calendar year 2007)."
    Microsoft hasn't released details of exactly what changes will be wrought in Vista
    SP1, which has been assigned the codename 'Fiji' but some OS components which missed
    the RTM cut-off will almost certainly be rolled into the update.

    One of the candidates for this better-late-than-never brigade would be the Windows
    PowerShell, previously Microsoft Shell -- a .NET-based command line shell with its
    own scripting language.

    However, the Redmond clarion call declares that "regressions from Windows Vista and
    Windows XP, security, deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the
    primary focus for the Service Pack."

    So, yes, the still not-yet-released Vista has "high impact issues".

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    mikeyhsd, Jan 25, 2007
    #3
  4. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest

    TAP is MSFT's "Technology Adoption Program"

    Still, the invitation specifically implies Vista still has "high impact issues".

    Testers will be enrolled in the Vista SP1 "Technology Adoption Program" and "must be
    willing to provide feedback and deploy pre-release [Vista pre-release SP1] builds
    into production environments."


    ---


    what I read is it is for the TAP program.
    special requirements.






    According to several reputable sources
    ( http://apcmag.com/5098/microsoft_kick_starts_vista_sp1)
    MSFT is looking for Vista SP1 testers, even before Vista launches.

    Quote:

    ---
    " The company has put out a call for "customers and partners (to) actively test and
    provide feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to help us prepare for its release in the
    second half of CY07 (calendar year 2007)."
    Microsoft hasn't released details of exactly what changes will be wrought in Vista
    SP1, which has been assigned the codename 'Fiji' but some OS components which missed
    the RTM cut-off will almost certainly be rolled into the update.

    One of the candidates for this better-late-than-never brigade would be the Windows
    PowerShell, previously Microsoft Shell -- a .NET-based command line shell with its
    own scripting language.

    However, the Redmond clarion call declares that "regressions from Windows Vista and
    Windows XP, security, deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the
    primary focus for the Service Pack."

    So, yes, the still not-yet-released Vista has "high impact issues".

    ----
     
    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
    #4
  5. EU XP user

    Beck Guest

    That is a good thing and nothing serious. There will be numerous features
    that did not make it to the final version and they will be thinking about
    adding them to the first service pack.
     
    Beck, Jan 25, 2007
    #5
  6. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest

    A well known fact
    We both know that "final code" doesn't exist :)
    Still, I applaud the Vista SP1 effort.
    These corporate customers tend to use just a fraction of what Vista is capable of -
    typically running office software.
     
    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
    #6
  7. Yes they are in fact getting new TAP for SP1 of Vista. In a large
    organization like MS, planning and getting approval takes a long time.
     
    Jabez Gan [MVP], Jan 25, 2007
    #7
  8. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest



    http://news.com.com/Microsoft+already+planning+Vista+service+pack/2100-1016_3-6152704.html
    MSFT spokesperson:

    Quote:
    "We expect Windows Vista SP1 to be a standard service pack that will include security
    updates and hot fixes,
    as well as limited other changes "
     
    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
    #8
  9. EU XP user

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, EU XP user
    And the TAP is not the same thing as the general technical beta
    test. The bar for admittance to the TAP program is quite high
    and there are certain commitments required of the company's that
    are accepted into the program that don't exist for the regular
    technical beta test channel. TAPs are generally limited to
    large, enterprise organizations. Individuals are not allowed
    into TAPs.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 25, 2007
    #9
  10. But corporate customers are not the only ones.
    There are a great many others with legitimate access to Vista RTM.
    The two sentences of Mikes Post, part of which you edited out also refer to
    other than corporate coustomers.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jan 25, 2007
    #10
  11. So why are you surprised that the SP1 beta program is getting underway
    and you even explicitly said "...before Vista launches" - which
    clearly implied you were not aware that a huge number of seats have
    been deployed with RTM code for a number of months now.
    Not true - the corporate who have deployed tens of thousands of seats
    of RTM code last year are using full functionality across all the
    usage scenarios for the product.
     
    Mike Brannigan, Jan 25, 2007
    #11
  12. SP1 will not include new features. Any new features would only be added to
    a future release of Windows such as Vista R2 (if there is one) or Windows
    codename Vienna.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 25, 2007
    #12
  13. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest


    Sure, those corporate users are watching "Final Impact" movies
    in HD-DVD on their brand-new, corporate, non-HDCP compliant
    VISTA-Ultimate mediacenter entertainment systems.

    And obviously, they all upgraded from XP instead of a clean install,
    with countless invalid registry entries...

    :)
     
    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
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  14. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest

    You have a valid point, also non-corporate customers are currently using Vista RTM.

    But Vista's hardware and elaborate driver requirements make it a OS to be aquired
    with Vista certfied and tested new hardware.

    I tried the Vista upgrade advisor on several XP machines: most showed major soft or
    hardware incompatibilities.
     
    EU XP user, Jan 25, 2007
    #14
  15. "But Vista's hardware and elaborate driver requirements make..."
    Not true.
    Nothing elaborate about the Vista requirements.

    Vista runs fine on my computer.
    The newest component is an over 18 month old old video card.
    More memory would be a plus for my system, but that is not necessary and
    hardly elaborate.

    The upgrade advisor showed some incompatibilities on mine as well.
    All were resolved when I did the Clean Installation with newest drivers 2
    months ago.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jan 26, 2007
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  16. EU XP user

    JP Guest

    I'm BETA testing Windows Server 2008 service pack 2 and they
    haven't even got Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) to RC1 yet.

    MS is just being proactive.
     
    JP, Jan 26, 2007
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  17. EU XP user

    Mr. Vista Guest

    Do you expect that you will be testing SP1 Colin?.
     
    Mr. Vista, Jan 26, 2007
    #17
  18. No idea. Until I get an email or have a sign up opportunity on Connect I
    have no idea what is going on. I don't expect Connect to offer the beta
    opportunity for a little while. Perhaps during the second quarter. If I am
    invited I will use my Vista x64 on my test box.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 26, 2007
    #18
  19. EU XP user

    EU XP user Guest

    Lucky you :)

    I read you did not upgrade to Vista Ultimate from XP on your shared video-memory
    portable,
    missing out on the Aero experience, while being unable to watch legitimate HD-DVD
    movies on
    your new desktop just because your new 40 inch TV doesn't support HDCP and your pc
    video
    card doesn't support secure HDMI connectors (very few do)

    I just wanted to point out that while the 'full Vista experience' is being
    over-hyped,
    a very large part of current pc's can only run the very "basic" vista experience.


    Please also review (security related):
    http://news.com.com/South+Koreans+warned+on+Vista+compatibility/2100-1016-6153435.html

    ---- quote ---
    South Korean government officials are warning consumers that Internet and e-commerce
    sites in that country may lack full compatibility with Microsoft's Windows Vista
    operating system, which will become available to consumers next week. The South Korea
    Ministry of Information and Communication (MIC) is the latest foreign agency to weigh
    in on Vista's pending release with a warning.

    Two weeks ago, the British Educational Communications and Technology Agency "strongly
    recommended" that schools in the U.K. avoid deploying Vista during the next 12
    months, calling early deployment a "high-risk strategy."
     
    EU XP user, Jan 26, 2007
    #19
  20. Add another "senior" machine to the mix that loves Vista. It's a 2003 Dell
    Optiplex.
     
    Gary G. Little, Jan 26, 2007
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