Vista speed and delete issue

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Axel, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Axel

    Axel Guest

    I already checked many other forums but all I see is disappointment about the
    "most embarrassing release ever by Microsoft".
    Anybody here who can help:
    - If I delete 100 files it takes about 1 second per file to delete
    - If I look up my server it takes seconds for my PC to recognize the network
    and let me access files
    - If I delete my Recycle bin it tells me 45 Minutes estimated time to delete
    - Start Outlook 2007 – about 1 minute later it is ready to use…
    And so it goes on.
    I bought a brand new HP DV6000 Vista pre installed, DualCore CPU and 2GB RAM.

    Is there a good way to go back to XP? I think Vista is just not ready and if
    2,000 Vista Engineers can't get it done in 5 years I guess they won’t be able
    to build this in the next 2 years.
    I also agree this is the most embarrassing release ever for a 30 year old
    company with 30,000+ people and 2 products (office and Windows).
    Axel, Aug 27, 2007
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  2. I have no where near the slowness you refer and my computer is a few
    years old.

    Has your computer always been like this?
    Or has it gotten worse since purchase?
    Have you performed a Clean Installation to help ensure a bad
    installation is not the cause?

    Do you have the latest drivers?
    Do not assume a new computer is shipped with the latest drivers.

    If all else fails, contact HP for warranty support or a return before
    that option expires.
    You have something going on other than just Vista.

    As for going back to Windows XP, if the computer shipped with Vista,
    there is nothing to go back to.
    Ask HP for options.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Aug 27, 2007
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  3. Axel

    GeekBoy Guest

    Here is your problem: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This means tons of "bloatware" installed by HP that slows down the
    performance of your computer.
    Go and try to uninstall all those HP items.
    GeekBoy, Aug 27, 2007
  4. New computers are worthless upon arrival because of all the "freeware" and
    "trial ware" that the manufacturers install upon them.

    If you were to get the machine stripped bare of all of this, you would see
    what the actual capabilities of your machine (using Vista) are. Then, as you
    load each individual item, you would see the impact that it has on the
    computer and operating system.

    I "always" load clean. The initial boot is fast beyond my expectations. Then
    I install my antivirus. System slows down. Then I install some anti-spyware
    programs. System slows down more.

    After about three hours of installing and rebooting - the initial lightning
    bolt now takes 2 1/2 minutes to reach the desktop.

    But because your computer came with all of this crapware already installed -
    you were not privileged to see the individual slow downs that each
    successive application install adds to the boot time.

    So, start fresh. Get rid of everything. Install Vista and the necessary
    drivers. Then, make an image of your system (you do use TrueImage, don't
    you). Install your antivirus of choice. Reboot a couple of times. How is the
    boot time? Not happy? Revert back to your image and install a different
    antivirus program.

    It's all trial and error.

    Many have found that there are some antivirus programs that are just more
    efficient than others. These include Avast and NOD32.

    Most have found that anything from Symantec or McAfee bring your computer to
    it's knees. The same goes for anti-spyware programs. Some are good, and slow
    the machine. Some are good, and don't slow the machine much at all.

    But if you blindly stay with what was delivered on your computer, you will
    never know!



    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
    Richard Urban, Aug 27, 2007
  5. Axel

    Lord Takyon Guest

    I can only offer the same advice as others, clean out all the crap that came
    pre-installed. Seriously, you need to pretty much strip it back to bare
    windows and start again.
    Lord Takyon, Aug 27, 2007
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    AJR Guest

    The implied comparison between XP and Vista is interesting - considering
    that posts to the XP general newsroup exceeds those posted to the Vista
    group (iven that there are more XPs out there than vISTA.
    AJR, Aug 28, 2007
  7. Axel

    Marc Darragh Guest

    Yeah I agree with the guys

    PC manufactures aways give you the best of crap software when you buy a new

    Next time try and build one yourself. Better machine and cost less. If
    your using Noton products on your machine Try and disable them then see how
    fast your machine will run.

    Marc Darragh
    Marc Darragh, Aug 28, 2007
  8. Axel

    Ken Blake Guest

    My view is exactly the opposite. For the vast majority of computer users,
    it's the worst possible advice. Yes, building a computer is very easy, and
    doesn't really require any special skills. But troubleshooting the computer
    you've built if it doesn't work is another thing entirely and can be very
    hard. If this is something *you* enjoy doing, then fine. But the great
    majority of computer users are not hobbyists, have no interets in building,
    and even less in troubleshooting. They want an appliance that works when you
    take it out of the box, just like a toaster or coffeemaker.

    Also, although it's certainly true that you *can* get a better machine if
    you build it, that's only true if you know enough to choose components
    wisely. The average computer user doesn't even know what components he
    needs, let alone which brands and models to choose.

    And cheaper? That's rarely the case. The big OEMs buy components by the
    container and get the best prices. The computers they assemble are almost
    always the cheapest choices. Not necessarily the best, but the cheapest.

    Personally, although I've built computers myself in the past, these dys I
    take a middle ground. I use a small local builder, specify all the
    components myself, but let him do the actual assembly (and any needed
    troubleshooting), For that service and a two-year warranty, I pay him an
    extra $75, and in my view it's well worth it to me. But I wouldn't even
    recommend that to most people. Most people are better off with someting like
    a Dell.

    But here, I agree with you completely.
    Ken Blake, Aug 28, 2007
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    Steve P Guest

    So, what do you do with a DELL with all the crapware and McAfee installed. I
    have 2 gigs of RAM and a 2 gig processor and the machine is a pig! I've had
    several sessions with the online geeks-chat and remote control-and they have
    failed to significantly improve performance. I don't know enough about what
    I can delete and what I cannot. I just wanted a new laptop, and I got a new
    OS that I hate. Is this going to be another ME, i.e. an interim crap OS on
    the way to something better?
    Steve P, Aug 28, 2007
  10. Steve;
    You start by complaining about all the bloatware installed and follow
    with asking if Vista is another Windows ME
    First you need to determine if it is the operating system or the
    bloatware installed by the manufacturer causing your issues.
    They are not at all the same.

    Start by getting rid of anything McAfee or Norton,
    Then install something better such as AVG Free:
    NOD 32:

    This page can help you determine which start-up programs are needed on
    your computer:
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Aug 28, 2007
  11. Axel

    Marc Darragh Guest

    Yes Ken I understand you completely.

    But was just trying to make a comparison.
    Marc Darragh, Aug 28, 2007
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    Bob Guest

  13. Axel

    Ken Blake Guest

    Uninstall anything you don't want. Alternatively, reinstall Windows and
    don't load what you don't want.
    Ken Blake, Aug 29, 2007
  14. Axel

    Ken Blake Guest

    OK, but it reads like advice for everyone to build his own computer. And
    although it may be right for you, it's bad advice for most people.

    Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
    Please reply to the newsgroup

    Ken Blake, Aug 29, 2007
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