vista spider solitaire helper

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Games' started by rrobelen, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    I play Vista spider 2 suits (intermediate). I have solved the first 51
    games (and still going). I read somewhere that all 2 suit games ar
    solveable. I could not have solved the games without an Exce
    spreadsheet that I developed that does not solve the games but helps yo
    solve them by keeping track of the cards you have managed to expose.
    only use it on the hard ones but without it I would have given up o
    many. I would be happy to share it with anyone who is like me and i
    determined to solve every game. It has an easy way to enter the cards
     
    rrobelen, Feb 16, 2009
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    Mark Guest

    Thats an amazing achievement (I'm only at 42%)

    However, given that there are 104 cards and the (supposedly) random delivery
    of them, aren't there hundreds of millions of possibilities?

    Mark
     
    Mark, Feb 17, 2009
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  3. You can reinstall the game if you want. Then it should fix your issue
     
    James Matthews, Feb 17, 2009
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  4. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    I don't have an issue with the game. I think you misread my post
     
    rrobelen, Feb 17, 2009
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  5. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    ::Hi Mark,::
    ::I read somewhere that all the 4 suit games (advanced) are not
    solvable but all the 2 suit games are. If this is true then the games
    are not randomly dealt. I can easily construct a deck of cards where you
    could not make a move on any of the 6 deals of the cards.::
    ::Reading that all the 2 suit games are solvable caused me to reinstall
    the game and see if I could in fact solve all the 2 suit games I played.
    In time I ran into a very hard game which lead to my constructing what I
    call my “spider helper”. It is an Excel spreadsheet with some VBA code
    behind it to make it easy to enter the cards that are exposed. Seeing
    which stacks had not been exposed and then concentrating them lead me to
    a solution for the game. Since it does take some work to enter the cards
    I don’t use it on every game. I do not have a precise way to decide when
    to use it (my mood comes into play). I would say, on average, I use the
    helper on maybe one out of every 10 games but that is just a guess.::
    ::On your comment that you are at 42% - I assume you are playing 2
    suits like me. When I was playing 2 suit spider on XP (where you can
    only go back up to the last suit removal) I was at 40%. Of course in
    spider on Vista you can back up all the way to the beginning which makes
    it much easier to find a solution.::
    ::As I said, my helper does not solve the games but without it I would
    have given up on some games. Before I built the helper I had one that
    took me over 2000 moves to solve. Using the helper casts the game in a
    new light.::
    ::Russ ::
     
    rrobelen, Feb 18, 2009
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  6. rrobelen

    Mamie Guest

    I just got Vista and played many games of spider solitaire. I complete
    all games yet when I checked my statistics it said I had lost one game
    I hadn't. I reset the stats and started again. After about 60 games, i
    again said I had lost one. I had completed all, but did back track.
    wondered if by back tracking before ending the game you lose a game
    even though I went to the end and solved it
    Can anyone help
     
    Mamie, Feb 20, 2009
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  7. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    I have been able to backtrack many times in a game and when
    ultimately complete it it has always counted as a win. My stats ar
    now
    Games played 52
    Games won 52
    Win percentage 100

    Longest winning streak 52
    Longest losings streak
    Current streak 52
     
    rrobelen, Feb 20, 2009
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  8. rrobelen

    Mamie Guest

    Thanks for that. There must be a glitch in mine because I hav
    definitely completed each game but twice now it has ruined my stat
    without warning
    Good luck to you in your scoring
     
    Mamie, Feb 20, 2009
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  9. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    I assume you are playing in the Intermediate or Advanced option. I a
    playing Intermediate but I can't believe the game performs differentl
    in any mode. I have never tried it in Beginner mode
     
    rrobelen, Feb 21, 2009
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  10. rrobelen

    Mamie Guest

    I am playing in the Intermediate option. It is mysterious that after th
    fireworks, it just records a winning game as a loss inexplicably. Bu
    thanks for the sympathy
     
    Mamie, Feb 21, 2009
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  11. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    I don't see any fireworks in Vista spider. I used to see them in X
    spider. Are you sure you are playing Vista spider
     
    rrobelen, Feb 21, 2009
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  12. rrobelen

    Mark Guest

    Vista spider plays fireworks when you win a game.

    You might try resetting your numbers, perhaps that will zero it out and fix
    the problem. Another possibility would be to uninstall and reinstall it.

    Hope that helps!
    Mark
     
    Mark, Feb 23, 2009
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  13. rrobelen

    rrobelen Guest

    Now I see I did not have animation turned on hence no fireworks
     
    rrobelen, Feb 23, 2009
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  14. rrobelen

    windowman59 Guest

    Has anyone else noticed that spider solitare gives incorrect win rat
    percentages? It's usually a percentage point lower than it should be
    For instance, right now it shows my win rate at 8% for the difficul
    level. That's with 36 wins and 375 losses. However, 36 divided by 375 i
    .096 which is well over 9%
     
    windowman59, Mar 2, 2009
    #14
  15. It is my first time on a spider solitaire sight. I was surprised to see that anyone would play 2 suits. Be persistent and try 4 suits, you don't win very often but when you do - what a thrill. I'm addicted, can't go to sleep unless I play at least a couple of games! Try it. Oswaldo



    rrobelen wrote:

    vista spider solitaire helper
    16-Feb-09

    I play Vista spider 2 suits (intermediate). I have solved the first 51
    games (and still going). I read somewhere that all 2 suit games ar
    solveable. I could not have solved the games without an Exce
    spreadsheet that I developed that does not solve the games but helps yo
    solve them by keeping track of the cards you have managed to expose.
    only use it on the hard ones but without it I would have given up o
    many. I would be happy to share it with anyone who is like me and i
    determined to solve every game. It has an easy way to enter the cards

    --
    rrobelen

    Previous Posts In This Thread:

    vista spider solitaire helper
    I play Vista spider 2 suits (intermediate). I have solved the first 51
    games (and still going). I read somewhere that all 2 suit games ar
    solveable. I could not have solved the games without an Exce
    spreadsheet that I developed that does not solve the games but helps yo
    solve them by keeping track of the cards you have managed to expose.
    only use it on the hard ones but without it I would have given up o
    many. I would be happy to share it with anyone who is like me and i
    determined to solve every game. It has an easy way to enter the cards

    --
    rrobelen

    Thats an amazing achievement (I'm only at 42%)However, given that there are
    Thats an amazing achievement (I am only at 42%

    However, given that there are 104 cards and the (supposedly) random deliver
    of them, are not there hundreds of millions of possibilities

    Mark

    You can reinstall the game if you want.
    You can reinstall the game if you want. Then it should fix your issu

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    I don't have an issue with the game. I think you misread my post-- rrobelen
    I do not have an issue with the game. I think you misread my pos

    -
    rrobelen

    solvable but all the 2 suit games are.
    solvable but all the 2 suit games are. If this is true then the game
    are not randomly dealt. I can easily construct a deck of cards where yo
    could not make a move on any of the 6 deals of the cards.:
    the game and see if I could in fact solve all the 2 suit games I played
    In time I ran into a very hard game which lead to my constructing what
    call my ?spider helper?. It is an Excel spreadsheet with some VBA cod
    behind it to make it easy to enter the cards that are exposed. Seein
    which stacks had not been exposed and then concentrating them lead me t
    a solution for the game. Since it does take some work to enter the card
    I don?t use it on every game. I do not have a precise way to decide whe
    to use it (my mood comes into play). I would say, on average, I use th
    helper on maybe one out of every 10 games but that is just a guess.:
    suits like me. When I was playing 2 suit spider on XP (where you ca
    only go back up to the last suit removal) I was at 40%. Of course i
    spider on Vista you can back up all the way to the beginning which make
    it much easier to find a solution.:
    have given up on some games. Before I built the helper I had one tha
    took me over 2000 moves to solve. Using the helper casts the game in
    new light.:

    Mark;1171493 Wrote:

    --
    rrobele
    Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com

    Re: vista spider solitaire helper
    rrobelen;970768 Wrote:

    I just got Vista and played many games of spider solitaire. I complete
    all games yet when I checked my statistics it said I had lost one game
    I hadn't. I reset the stats and started again. After about 60 games, i
    again said I had lost one. I had completed all, but did back track. I
    wondered if by back tracking before ending the game you lose a game,
    even though I went to the end and solved it.
    Can anyone help?


    --
    Mamie

    Re: vista spider solitaire helper
    Mamie;973314 Wrote:
    I have been able to backtrack many times in a game and when I
    ultimately complete it it has always counted as a win. My stats are
    now:
    Games played 526
    Games won 526
    Win percentage 100%

    Longest winning streak 526
    Longest losings streak 0
    Current streak 526


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    rrobelen

    Thanks for that.
    Thanks for that. There must be a glitch in mine because I have
    definitely completed each game but twice now it has ruined my stats
    without warning!
    Good luck to you in your scoring!


    --
    Mamie

    I assume you are playing in the Intermediate or Advanced option.
    I assume you are playing in the Intermediate or Advanced option. I am
    playing Intermediate but I can't believe the game performs differently
    in any mode. I have never tried it in Beginner mode.


    --
    rrobelen

    I am playing in the Intermediate option.
    I am playing in the Intermediate option. It is mysterious that after the
    fireworks, it just records a winning game as a loss inexplicably. But
    thanks for the sympathy.


    --
    Mamie

    I don't see any fireworks in Vista spider. I used to see them in XPspider.
    I do not see any fireworks in Vista spider. I used to see them in XP
    spider. Are you sure you are playing Vista spider?


    --
    rrobelen

    Vista spider plays fireworks when you win a game.
    Vista spider plays fireworks when you win a game.

    You might try resetting your numbers, perhaps that will zero it out and fix
    the problem. Another possibility would be to uninstall and reinstall it.

    Hope that helps!
    Mark


    Now I see I did not have animation turned on hence no fireworks.-- rrobelen
    Now I see I did not have animation turned on hence no fireworks.


    --
    rrobelen

    Has anyone else noticed that spider solitare gives incorrect win
    Has anyone else noticed that spider solitare gives incorrect win rate
    percentages? It's usually a percentage point lower than it should be.
    For instance, right now it shows my win rate at 8% for the difficult
    level. That's with 36 wins and 375 losses. However, 36 divided by 375 is
    ..096 which is well over 9%.


    --
    windowman59

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