Vista Start Menu Issues/Pin to Menu

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Matt Zee, May 31, 2007.

  1. Matt Zee

    Matt Zee Guest

    Some of the short cut menu items on the Vista Business start menu are not
    working when I use the "Pin to menu" function. For instance if I Pin the
    Windows Live Messanger to start menu it does not work, yet the original
    shortcut does work. This seems to only be happening to some shortcuts I pin.
    And I can't notice a pattern. I have also noticed that when I use "search"
    option in the start menu the same shortcuts that do not work when I pin them,
    also do now work when I use the search.

    Any Ideas?
     
    Matt Zee, May 31, 2007
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    Jon Guest

    Think the pattern is this...

    If you shift right-click on a shortcut and choose the Pin option, and then
    move that shortcut anywhere else it causes the pinned start menu item to
    stop working.

    Recreating the pinned item will obviously fix it. You can also pin the
    shortcut's target item to the menu, rather than the shortcut.
     
    Jon, May 31, 2007
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    jimmuh Guest

    I saw the same behavior on MS Office 2007 shortcuts created by the Office
    installer. The shortcuts were not moved. Pinning them to the start menu
    resulted in the pinned shortcut not working. Accessing the shortcuts via the
    search function also did not work. Never got a solution, other than to blow
    away the shortcuts and create my own shortcuts directly to the executables.
    All was fine after that.

    This has been the case on every system here (4 of them) running Vista
    Business with Office Pro 2007, OneNote 2007, and Visio Pro 2007 installed.
    My guess is that there's something "funny" about some Microsoft installation
    procedures that produces these "crippled" shortcuts. May have something to do
    with multiple installations of similar products -- as in my multiple
    isntallations of Office products.
     
    jimmuh, May 31, 2007
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  4. Matt Zee

    Matt Zee Guest

    Ya something is very strange. I did also notice this and its a pattern.
    Only Microsoft Products do not work in the menu when i use the search option
    OR if i pin them to the menu... If I navigate to them, through the start menu
    they work fine.

    Any other suggestions?
     
    Matt Zee, Jun 1, 2007
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    Matt Zee Guest

    One more thing I realized. I have Vistal installed on my laptop and Desktop.
    The Desktop is what is having the start menu problems. On my laptop the
    apps are all installed in same partion as OS (C drive), but the Desktop all
    my apps (Microsoft and non Microsoft) are on a seperate partition. This may
    have something to do with it? But that leads me back to wondering, why only
    microsoft programs not running from start menu( After Pin to menu, or Search)?
     
    Matt Zee, Jun 1, 2007
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    jimmuh Guest

    I'm not surprised that you had this issue with your other MS applications. It
    seems to be a pretty widespread phenomenon. I am not a user of MS Messenger
    (live or otherwise, heh) so would not have noticed the issue with that
    application.

    I don't believe that placing applications on different partitions has any
    bearing on this issue because I always place my applications within the same
    partition as Windows (on my Windows systems). I have four systems here that
    are configured with Vista Business and Office applications but which are,
    otherwise, quite different from each other. They all have this odd shortcut
    shortcoming -- but only with Microsoft applications, never with any other
    applications.

    My only suggestion for you is to do what I did -- simply delete the
    malfunctioning shortcuts and create your own shortcuts directly to the
    applications' executable files themselves. You'll have to alter the default
    views in Windows Explorer temporarily in order to do this. I just placed the
    new shortcuts in the All Users profile.

    Naturally there will be a couple of shortcuts you won't be able to duplicate
    this way, the Create New Office File and Open Office File shortcuts were
    related to registry entries, which is true of the other malfunctioning
    shortcuts. (If you look at their properties you'll see that those special MS
    shortcuts do NOT point to executables.) But the new shortcuts you create will
    work properly.
     
    jimmuh, Jun 1, 2007
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  7. Matt Zee

    Matt Zee Guest

    Well doing what you suggested does work. So thanks in that sense. But it is
    pretty said that we have to do this to make them work. I really hope
    Microsoft looks into this issue. Very strange how on one machine it works
    fine and on another it does not (Both being Windows Vista Business)
     
    Matt Zee, Jun 1, 2007
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    jimmuh Guest

    Yeah. I ran into the issue in November when I first installed Vista RTM and
    the MS Office 2007 apps from my TechNet Plus subscripton. I posted about it
    then. Since then I've seen occasional posts like yours. I've never seen a
    satisfactory explanation as to why it happens, nor have I seen any
    information concerning any means of avoiding the problem. I guess it's not a
    high priority for MS, because they do seem to know about it.
     
    jimmuh, Jun 1, 2007
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    Dan Guest

    A solution I found to this problem is to create new shortcuts on the
    desktop (right click and select new-shortcut) for the items that
    aren't working...for instance "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office
    \Office12\WINWORD.EXE" for Microsoft Word, and then you can name it
    what you would like. I then replaced the previous shortcut to Word in
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs. That will
    correct the shortcut under "all programs" and also when it is placed
    in the recent programs and pinned to the start menu. Now I can click
    on any link and it will open the program. This worked for all of the
    programs that weren't working. It is a little bit of a pain, but now
    that it is done, it works well and I don't have to worry about it.
     
    Dan, Jul 10, 2007
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    Doug Guest

    Thanks, Dan, that looks helpful. Presumably it is possible to change the
    properties of the shortcut (such as "Run as Administrator") during this
    replacement process?
     
    Doug, Jul 10, 2007
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    jimmuh Guest

    Yes, actually I mentioned that solution in my second post in this thread, as
    I did in my original thread posted back (I believe) in December. Making
    shortcuts to the executables works just fine, but you wind up not having
    properly working "special" shortcuts -- like the ones for opening the dialogs
    for pre-existing or new Office files.
     
    jimmuh, Jul 10, 2007
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