Vista to XP?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Jerry Kiernan, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. I give up. Vista Home sucks. Is there ANY way to take my new computer, kill
    Vista and go to XP pro??
     
    Jerry Kiernan, Feb 10, 2008
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  2. Yes, you would need to obtain a Windows XP Pro license and do a clean
    install of XP. Make sure you backup all your settings and data.
     
    Dustin Harper, Feb 10, 2008
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  3. Jerry Kiernan

    gregrocker Guest

    Is it because you are slowed down by VISTA? It uses a lot or resources for
    all of the fancy graphics and diagnositics. But there is a way to turn a lot
    of this off and regain signficant speed. I started by turning off the Aero
    Glass effects in Control Panel>Display, then unchecked all of the Visual
    Effects but the last 3. If that doesn't speed it up enough then consult the
    Black Viper's highly regarded list of services.msc to edit as you can turn
    off a lot of resource hogs and not affect your system at all (Safe list) or
    turn off even more and get a stripped-down version that gamers like (Tweaked
    list).

    http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10149_1...=275745&messageID=2654466&tag=nl.e497#2654466

    http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm

    Black Viper is recommended by Leo Laporte radio show which is the top
    computer show here in California.
     
    gregrocker, Feb 10, 2008
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  4. Jerry Kiernan

    gregrocker Guest

    If the issue is resource hogging and slow performance, you can edit down your
    graphics effects and regain considerable speed. Also shut off many unneeded
    services using the Black Viper's vista services tweaks list and you will be
    amazed.
    http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
     
    gregrocker, Feb 10, 2008
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  5. Jerry Kiernan

    Mick Murphy Guest

    Hi Jerry.
    If you have business or Ultimate, apparently there is a way to free
    downgrade through the manufacturers to XP Pro, if dissatisfied(as far as I
    know).

    If you downgrade to XP, you lose your Hardware Warranty.

    Also, check the computers manufacturer/s website to see if there are XP
    drivers written for your hardware in your computer.

    Later model computers have Vista ONLY Drivers written for them.

    XP is still being sold until June 2008.

    Dell still give you the choice of what you want, XP or vista.

    hope it helps.
     
    Mick Murphy, Feb 10, 2008
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  6. Maybe. Before doing so, Jerry should make sure that XP drivers for all
    his hardware are available. Particularly if his computer is a laptop,
    they may not exist.

    Moreover, some computer manufacturers will consider that if you change
    your operating system, it voids your warranty, so he should check on
    that as well.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 10, 2008
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  7. Jerry Kiernan

    Jon Guest

    Why should changing the OS void your hardware warranty? You've bought
    hardware from the manufacturer and they should honour their agreement to
    maintain and fix that hardware regardless of the OS in my opinion.

    MANY people are extremely unhappy with vista, myself included, I'm fed up of
    system hangs, slow startup, programs stopping working, hardware and software
    incompatibility and a million and one stupid annoying bugs that happen on a
    daily basis! I want to downgrade to XP, for me there's no WOW in vista it's
    quite the opposite!

    Also I design interfaces for a living, vista has an appalling interface,
    it's so cluttered and illogical at times (especially for system
    administrators), I hate the frosted glass effect, it makes the screen feel
    really busy and is a waste of computing power! I switched all the visual
    styling off and reverted the visual look back to '95 style.

    Oh and just in case you think my system hangs are due to a rubbish PC, I
    have a pretty high spec, intel dual core 2.4GHz processor(s), 6GB RAM, 1.5TB
    hd storage and a ATI Radeon 2600XT 1GB..... so I don't think I should have
    any problems with that spec!
     
    Jon, Feb 11, 2008
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  8. Should? It should not, as far as I'm concerned.


    Yes, I agree, they should. Argue with them, not me. The fact, however,
    is that some manufacturers consider that changing the operating system
    voids your warranty. If that happens to you, and it might, your only
    recourse would be to take them to court. My guess is that you wouldn't
    want to go to those lengths, and that even if you did, the fine print
    in the warranty would make it clear that you had no chance of winning.


    And many more others are very happy with it, myself included.

    But it's your choice. I'm not trying to talk you into anything.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 11, 2008
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  9. I have the t-shirt that says " I void warranties " . :)
     
    Dustin Harper, Feb 11, 2008
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  10. Jerry Kiernan

    PC Medic Guest

    Not legally (not in the US any way).
    Now they may tell you that you will need to run the OS recovery CD to place
    the system back to a state it was in when purchased before they will provide
    any OS support, but they can NOT 'void' your warranty for changing the OS
    nor have I ever heard of any vendor doing so.
     
    PC Medic, Feb 14, 2008
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  11. Jerry Kiernan

    Bob F. Guest

    First, warrantee laws are State by State. Second, Not all States require
    any Warranty at all except "implied warranty", and that is: "the product is
    fit for the purpose for which it is sold". Third, a warrantee is a contract
    between a seller and buyer and can be written with ANY conditions, no matter
    how ridiculous, as long as they are not illegal. So, if the seller says
    your warranty is valid as long as you don't split on the street. you
    warranty is void if you do so. So it goes...
    BobF.
     
    Bob F., Feb 14, 2008
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  12. Please cite the specific portion of U.S. Code or court decision that
    establishes this new situation.




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    Bruce Chambers, Feb 14, 2008
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  13. Jerry Kiernan

    Bob F. Guest

    Not exactly a new situation. Warranty is State law and goes back over 200
    years. A little before Vista. ;-)
    Thats' why some warranty cards say "Void in some states".
    Bob F.
     
    Bob F., Feb 14, 2008
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  14. Yes, it is. "PC Medic" was positing a "new" situation, in which States
    and manufacturers no longer have any say in the warranties. It's a
    matter of Federal law, now, he claimed. He claimed that manufacturers
    could no longer legally void warranties whose terms had been violated by
    the consumers. This is news to me, and everyone I know. That's why I
    asked for a citation to support this new situation.


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    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

    Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

    The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
    killed a great many philosophers.
    ~ Denis Diderot
     
    Bruce Chambers, Feb 14, 2008
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  15. Jerry Kiernan

    Bob F. Guest

    Oh...looks like a combination of both:
    See:
    http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.shtm
    Bob F.
     
    Bob F., Feb 14, 2008
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  16. Jerry Kiernan

    Seth Guest

    From the various articles I've read in a number of the tech magazines and
    such (which means this is by no means an authoritative point, but the gist
    made sense) is that by changing the OS you are indeed voiding a "portion" of
    the warranty, namely the software warranty. Hardware warranty is still in
    tact. The magazines verified this with a number of the "big players" in the
    PC arena.

    The caveat though is that sometimes in order to establish that a hardware
    part is failing, it requires the phone support person to talk a user through
    using a diagnostic program. Usually that diagnostic program is part of the
    "factory load" and therefore missing when a user takes it upon themselves to
    install a different OS than what the machine came with.

    So while the hardware warranty is still in effect, the end user will have
    trouble proving it is a hardware issue therefore making it almost the same
    as voiding the warranty.

    There will of course still be the obvious hardware issues that the vendor
    can't dodge due to no diagnostic software being loaded on the PC. Such as
    bad power supply, failed hard drive, etc... But "funky video", bad network
    interface, failing modem, etc... might not be "provable" without the factory
    load being in place.
     
    Seth, Feb 14, 2008
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  17. Thanks. You took the words out of my mouth, so I won't bother to reply
    saying the same thing.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 14, 2008
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