Vista treating Admin as regular user?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Martin, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. Martin

    Martin Guest

    I am in the Administrator group on my own network, i am also in the Admin
    group of the local Vista pc, connected to a 2003 server.

    For some reason i do not have any Admin rights when i log on to the server.
    It treats me as a regular user, I think. I can't change security settings,
    can't install any programs, can't browse the network.

    Is this the way Vista is supposed to work or is something broken? And how do
    i get real Admin privileges?
     
    Martin, Jun 8, 2008
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  2. Martin

    Martin Guest

    Just to be more clear. The problem is not when i am actually on the server,
    only when i'm on the local Vista machine. The message i get is "Access
    Denied".
     
    Martin, Jun 8, 2008
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  3. Martin

    Sarah White Guest

    By default, windows vista asks anyone using "full admin" accounts "do
    you really want to do this? bad things could happen!"

    The way to do what you're talking about is disabling "UAC" (user account
    control) and rebooting... that's the only way to do it if you really
    want to use it as a full admin account 24/7.

    linux admins call using a 24/7 "root" (administrative) account "rooting
    around" ... in vista, you're going to have to disable default
    protections to be able to execute the equivalent security-suicide.

    Control Panel -> Security Center... it's the fourth section (after
    firewall, windows update and virus/malware protection) called "other
    settings"

    Windows Security will throw up red flags though (in your tool tray) it's
    considered as being in the same category as allowing webpages to run
    random scripts and install activex controls (the malicious ones out
    there will hijack your browser that way)
     
    Sarah White, Jun 8, 2008
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  4. Martin

    Mr. Arnold Guest


    Yes, that's the way Vista works is that anyone with Admin rights will be
    locked down to standard user rights in some cases. I hear that there is a so
    called admin account you can login with on Vista to give full access like
    XP, but I have not looked for the howto.

    But what you really have is an user account permissions issue you need to
    figure out, even with admin rights on Vista. Thus, the access denied
    message, which I have faced that problem on Vista with user account
    permissions issues on a folder I had to correct. I even faced that problem
    with two XP pro machines and having permission issues on a share and the
    *access denied*, until I found the account that superseded all accounts
    with its permissions (Everyone) on the share.
     
    Mr. Arnold, Jun 8, 2008
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  5. Martin

    Sarah White Guest

    Yeah... if you want to directly use the "administrator" account I was
    explaining that to someone else in another group on this server. Here's
    that post:

    news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/

    And my the not recommended steps (for direct "administrator" login) I
    replied with:

    news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/
    news://msnews.microsoft.com:119/
     
    Sarah White, Jun 9, 2008
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  6. Martin

    Martin Guest

    When i click on those links i get a "server not found" message in Outlook
    Express (which is what i use for newsgroups). After that dialog box i get
    another that says the message has expired from the server.
     
    Martin, Jun 9, 2008
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  7. Martin

    Sarah White Guest

    The thread is titled "i got two new administrative accounts plus my
    normal account with admin privellegies"
    it was found on this news server under the section
    "microsoft.public.windows.vista.administration_accounts_passwords"

    I was certain the new product was named "windows mail" ... alternatively
    you can directly paste the links into internet explorer 7 (I
    know for a fact that an unmodified vista system can use those addresses
    in IE 7 to at least view a single post)

    For that matter, how on earth are you using outlook express on windows
    vista? Any case, I've now listed the groups themselves, as well as the
    title of the original thread; however you choose to navigate to the
    thread and / reply posts I made on that thread is entirely up to you.

    Anyone that posts on the internet is going to get their name / email
    harvested by spammers... Personally I'm using "mozilla thunderbird" for
    it's anti-spam features; I just can't do without my adaptive junk
    detection / dns blacklist support through add-ons (or otherwise)
     
    Sarah White, Jun 9, 2008
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  8. Martin

    Martin Guest

    Thanks so much for the links. Very informative. BTW, XP is still my primary
    workstation, hence Outlook Express. Vista is a new addition to my network.
     
    Martin, Jun 10, 2008
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