Vista Ultimate x64 > XP Pro x86

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Jim Morrison, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. Jim Morrison

    Jim Morrison Guest

    hello, does anyone know where to find a good step-by-step idiot frendly
    tutorial how to connect my home computer (vista ultimate x64) with my laptop
    (win xp pro x86) to be able to access internet with my laptop through my
    home computer. i have d-link adsl router. i assume i can plug my laptop
    network cable directly into router but what other settings must be applied?

    thx!
     
    Jim Morrison, Nov 24, 2008
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  2. Jim Morrison

    Malke Guest

    I'm a little confused by your post. Are you asking how to get the Internet
    on both machines or are you asking how to share files/printers between the
    two computers? I'll give you some suggestions below but if my Crystal
    Ball(tm) was cloudy, please post back with clarification of what you
    actually want to know.

    For the first possible question - A router enables you to share an Internet
    connection between multiple computers and at the same time create a Local
    Area Network where you can have file/printer sharing. You can connect to
    the router either wired or wirelessly (assuming it is a wireless router and
    your computers have wireless network adapters, of course). To connect
    wired, simply plug one end of an ethernet cable into one of your router's
    LAN ports and the other end into your computer's ethernet network adapter.
    To connect wirelessly, set up a wireless network. If you need help with
    this, please let me know and I'll give you the details.

    For the second possible question - Here are general network troubleshooting
    steps. Not everything may be applicable to your situation, so just take the
    bits that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the
    links and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you will have no
    difficulty in setting up your sharing.

    Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
    Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
    and folders:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

    For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
    caveat in Item A below).

    Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
    by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
    firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
    built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
    identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
    to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

    A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
    traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
    Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
    XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
    will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
    third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
    firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
    usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
    192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
    subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
    how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
    DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

    B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
    is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

    C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
    need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
    assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
    need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
    PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
    to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
    can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

    Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

    D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
    Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

    E. Create shares as desired.


    Malke
     
    Malke, Nov 24, 2008
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  3. Jim Morrison

    hafizahmad Guest

    Due to its graphics effects, Windows Vista is very heavy on your system and

    causes slow speed even after upgrading the hardware. Here are a few tricks and
    tips to enhance performance of Windows Vista.

    Disable useless start up items

    Some applications like Windows Sidebar, Windows media player, Nero check
    Realplayer message centre and other applications loaded at the start up of
    Windows Vista are useless and consumes a lot of RAM and CPU usage.

    Disable services which you don't require:

    Go to Start » Run and type Services.msc at command prompt.

    There are several services you can disable to help improve performance.

    Disable UAC (User Account Control)


    Disable Network Printer Search:

    Explorer can slow down when browsing through shared folders and network computers on local network for printers. This sounds like a great feature and may be useful but you can get maximum performance by disabling it.
     
    hafizahmad, Nov 24, 2008
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  4. Jim Morrison

    Jim Morrison Guest


    hi, many thanks for the prompt and detailed answer. sorry if my question was
    a bit confusing, i am actully looking to get internet access on both
    machines. file and printer sharing is only optional at this stage. my home
    computer (vista ultimate x64) is connected to the internet via d-link
    ethernet router (wired). the router has 2 lan slots so i have pluged my
    laptop into the second slot. however i need help setting up the wired
    network. many thanks in advance!
     
    Jim Morrison, Nov 24, 2008
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  5. Jim Morrison

    Malke Guest

    OK, thanks for the clarification. As I said, there is nothing to setting up
    a wired network. Just plug in ethernet cables and go. The Vista machine
    will ask you whether this is a private or public network. You want to
    choose "Private" since this is a home LAN. There is nothing to install and
    nothing else special to do.

    If you decide to go wireless on the laptop (after all, this one of the
    greatest things about laptops is their mobility), here are some general
    instructions:

    To configure the router:

    Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
    given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
    mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
    browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:

    http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
    varies from router to router so check your manual)

    This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
    blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes. Enter
    that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
    configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.

    Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. Enter your new
    password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
    password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
    the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box again.
    Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
    configuration utility.

    Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
    Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
    suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For example,
    you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
    like. ;-)

    Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
    successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
    Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have a
    newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
    WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what you
    will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
    network. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.

    At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were using
    to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly, disconnect
    the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
    network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network and start
    surfing.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Nov 24, 2008
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  6. Due to its graphics effects, Windows Vista is very heavy on your system and

    causes slow speed even after upgrading the hardware. Here are a few tricks and
    tips to enhance performance of Windows Vista.

    Disable useless start up items

    Some applications like Windows Sidebar, Windows media player, Nero check
    Realplayer message centre and other applications loaded at the start up of
    Windows Vista are useless and consumes a lot of RAM and CPU usage.

    Disable services which you don't require:

    Go to Start » Run and type Services.msc at command prompt.

    There are several services you can disable to help improve performance.

    Disable UAC (User Account Control)


    Disable Network Printer Search:

    Explorer can slow down when browsing through shared folders and network computers on local network for printers. This sounds like a great feature and may be useful but you can get maximum performance by disabling it.



    None of which have anything to do with the OP's question..


    --
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    How to construct a good post..
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    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
    Mike's Window - My Blog..
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Nov 24, 2008
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  7. Jim Morrison

    Malke Guest

    (snip "hafizahmad's" post)
    Mike, he's posted this stuff in a couple of other groups as well as more of
    the similar with an URL (spam, which I reported). I suspect that what we
    have here is just an incompetent spammer. We should probably be grateful
    for his incompetence and hope he goes away soon. ;-)

    Best regards,

    Malke
     
    Malke, Nov 24, 2008
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  8. Jim Morrison

    Tim Slattery Guest

    To get to the Internet, you probably need to do nothing more than plug
    the second machine into the router.

    To be able to access files and printers on the desktop from the
    laptop, you'll first have to share them from the desktop. Right-click
    the directory you want to share, click "Properties" and look for the
    network settings tab. You'll be able to assign a sharename for the
    directory which will be available from the other machine.

    The procedure is similar for printers. Go to Start|Printers and Faxes,
    right-click the machine you want to share, click "Sharing".

    You'll also have to make sure that both machine are on the same
    workgroup.
     
    Tim Slattery, Nov 24, 2008
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  9. Jim Morrison

    Jim Morrison Guest



    i have tried pluging the second machine in the router and nothing. i get the
    notification that lan is connected but i cannot access internet. i have even
    tried sharing my interent connection on the home computer but no success. i
    am going slightly mad....
     
    Jim Morrison, Nov 25, 2008
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  10. Jim Morrison

    Malke Guest

    Jim Morrison wrote:

    It is very difficult to troubleshoot issues like yours without being
    on-site. Obviously something is set up wrong, but it will be impossible for
    people who can't see your equipment to know what that is. Have a local
    computer professional come on-site. I don't recommend using a
    BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.

    I'm sorry that I was unable to help you.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Nov 25, 2008
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  11. Jim Morrison

    hafizahmad Guest

    If you have Vista Premium or above you have a great new tool called Snipping Tool. It enables you to freeze. Read more
     
    hafizahmad, Nov 26, 2008
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  12. Jim Morrison

    Jim Morrison Guest



    Solved the problem! Just reseted my router to original settings (always
    connected), plugged the laptop and it works. Thanks for your help and
    efforts!
     
    Jim Morrison, Nov 27, 2008
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