WAIT, Before Disc Pressing--Error Here!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin], Nov 13, 2006.

  1. Well, from where I sit, Internet Explorer and Windows Mail are not
    categorized unless you are specifying the default E-mail program and Web
    browser from the Start menu Taskbar Properites.
     
    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin], Nov 13, 2006
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  2. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    Hey, Microsoft,

    I hope there's still time to fix this annoyance before you go out and press
    this to discs! Or if those are already unfortunately under way, I hope we can
    interrupt that and still make an edit for the rest of the discs.

    Vista's current Start Menu categories for Internet Explorer and Windows Mail
    (and XP's and maybe others', too, with Outlook Express) has this problem that
    makes it look like (that some people might wrongly think) e-mail isn't
    actually part of the internet, though it really IS. You put IE alone under
    Internet, and then separate e-mail as if it weren't part of internet.

    I don't want more people thinking this wrong thing, because if I hear that,
    it's really annoying! Will you please fix this logical bug annoyance by
    recategorizing those so that IE and e-mail both list under Internet as a main
    category, and then maybe add a subcat. for IE, maybe like "Web Browsing," and
    then maybe even add another sub for Windows Messenger called Instant
    Messaging?

    Or will you, at the very least, remove the category heading for Internet
    Explorer (so that it doesn't imply that only IE belongs to internet while
    e-mail is supposedly separate [since they belong together]), please?

    Will you edit that in all the languages, and keep that new format for all
    Vistas versions and any families of Windows to come after Vista, please?

    If it's too late for initial disc pressing, can you interrupt the pressing
    for a bit to edit this and then send the fixed version out and then resume,
    or if you won't do that for whatever reason, can it this fix at least be a
    side-item that happens to be included with your first security update or
    service pack?

    Thanks,
    "Maxx Fordham"
    M.C.



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    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  3. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    nicholas Guest

    Max I have a slight feeling that this will never happen as what you are
    commenting about does not seem to be a problem.

    NIK
     
    nicholas, Nov 14, 2006
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  4. That is Not A Show Stopper Bug, Just FYI. I Rated Your Post Not Use
    Full, Just FYI. You Are To Remove Your Pirated Copy of RTM Immediately,
    Or Else I Will Report You To Microsoft, Just FYI.
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Nov 14, 2006
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  5. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    yuki Guest

    how do you guys know what versions of vista people are running?

     
    yuki, Nov 14, 2006
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  6. Well, it was RTMed last week Wednesday Maxx, so I would assume its gone to
    the pressing factory and OEMs. Maybe if you get into the SP1 beta for Vista
    when it becomes available or next beta version of Windows, you can submit
    this as Design Change Request. Like Richard, I really don't see a problem.

    Windows Live Mail = Internet E-mail Server (requires a web browser) (Still
    E-mail)
    Windows Mail - Built in Mail Program
    Outlook - Mail and Calendaring

    The point is, its catergorized by Task, not the underlying technology.
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    Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin], Nov 14, 2006
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  7. The Fact That He Mentioned That He Found A Bug In RTM, Is How I Know
    That He Is Running A Pirated Copy Of RTM, Which Is Still Not Available
    on MSDN, Microsoft Tech Net Plus, and/or Microsoft Select, Just FYI.
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Nov 14, 2006
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  8. No reason to stop the presses. There is no problem that I can see.

    Either you are misinterpreting what you see or you have a problem with your
    individual computer.

    In 5 years plus I have never had a complaint such as yours.

    Now, maybe if you were to say "exactly" where you see
    this....................

    --

    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

     
    Richard Urban, Nov 14, 2006
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  9. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    Paul Smith Guest

    I have no idea.... His headers show he's using Windows 2000. :cool:

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    Yeovil, UK.
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    Paul Smith, Nov 14, 2006
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  10. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    yuki Guest

    I've seen other posts that mention something about header info or something
    like that. they, imply that you can get the vista build from it.

     
    yuki, Nov 14, 2006
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  11. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    Tom Ziegmann Guest

    Kevin, you are an idiot!! He never specifically mentioned he was using RTM.
    For all you know he could be using Beta 2. Get out of here until you mature
    in a big way.

    --
    Tom Ziegmann
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft Core OS Beta Tester

    *Feel free to contact me via e-mail if you
    have an urgent issue, otherwise please use
    the newsgroups*
     
    Tom Ziegmann, Nov 14, 2006
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  12. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    Pen Guest

    Where did he mention RTM?
     
    Pen, Nov 14, 2006
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  13. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    Are you the Nik named Nicholas White, the Product Manager?

    Yeah, true, it's not a functional bug, but if I had sent it in somewhat
    earlier in the game, they (or you, if you are that Nicholas) would likely
    have adjusted that as one of the many appearance adjustment suggestions they
    (/you've) taken, right?

    It's not a functional bug, but it still is a problem to me, because of the
    annoyance factor, including what it can make some people think, wrongly: "Oh,
    the internet is only that thing you get on when you want to look at a web
    page." NOT!

    Mike
    "Maxx Fordham"


     
    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  14. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    But they'd still show up as "Internet Explorer [only] = Internet," and
    "Windows Mail = not internet," the way it shows up in the Wikipedia, right?



     
    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  15. Kevin John Panzke, Nov 14, 2006
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  16. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    Alias Guest

    If Windows Live Mail Desktop, version 8.0.1083, that you're using,
    functions the same was as OE, right click on a message and choose
    Properties/Details tab/Message Source button. They're called "headers"
    in programs like Netscape and Thunderbird. With a message open or in the
    preview pane, I can get the headers with one click of the mouse with
    Thunderbird.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Nov 14, 2006
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  17. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    I know it's not a show-stopper bug, but they've already been taking many
    suggestions for looks adjustments, have they not? Then mine, too, right?

    No, I don't have a pirated version! The only version of Vista I have is that
    RC1 you could download for a while, but I haven't been able to install it
    yet. How I know how it looks, though, is that I saw a picture up on the
    Wikipedia.

    Mike


     
    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  18. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    I don't know what version others are using, yuki, but you can find out which
    one you, yourself, are using, by looking up on the system properties, I
    believe.

    Mike



     
    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  19. Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

    MaxxFordham Guest

    I'm not using any RTM version of Vista. I saw a picture of Vista on
    Wikipedia, and I've downloaded RC1, but they won't be using this as a testing
    device now. I haven't installed that yet, though I meant to get that done by
    now. I tried to install it last night, but ran into a problem. This problem
    that I ran into now, however, is not the issue at the moment.

    Mike



     
    MaxxFordham, Nov 14, 2006
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  20. Are You Trying To Get Me To Have A Heart Attack? I Need RTM To Be
    Posted On MSDN No Later Than Friday, Just FYI.
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Nov 14, 2006
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