Want to trade my 32bit version for your 64bit version

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by svenbernitt, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. svenbernitt

    svenbernitt Guest

    ::If there is anyone out there willing to trade their 64bit version o
    Vista Home Premium for my OEM 32bit version of Vista Home Premium
    please e-mail me at ::'::::' (
    ::I need the 64bit version because my system has 8GB RAM.:
    ::Thanks.:
    ::Sven:
     
    svenbernitt, Feb 8, 2008
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    Fesoj Guest

    And you will trade your pc too? Because your OS is OEM :)
     
    Fesoj, Feb 8, 2008
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    RyanHell078 Guest

    I bought an OEM version of 64 Vista Ultimate from TigerDirect.com, so it
    is NOT machine specific as the above commentor seems to be implying.
    OEM, from my personal experience, is a product void of any manuels or
    fancy boxes. Mine came in a cheap black and white sleeve, but the O.S.
    itself was the same exact product. Or am I wrong? I know what I bought,
    what did you buy? A basic no thrills model of the O.S., I presume? If I
    hated it I would trade you but then I would be screwed next week when I
    myself decided to add ram. Now, there is a hack or mod SUPPOSEDLY, which
    can allow Vista 32's to read and properly use that added memory. Be
    careful and use at your own risk, for what that is worth. Personally I
    think Vista 64 is the new must have. WHY? Because it is allowing us to
    take computing a little bit higher. Are there trade-offs? Well, sure.
    But they are frivolous, and hacks and workarounds are already in place
    to make Vista like XP. The driver signature requirement for Vista 64 is
    a bit mennacing, but it is going to be cracked too, just wait and see.
    Why be part of something that has been, when you can be part of
    something that is being made still. By that I mean an OS that is still
    being hacked a lot. XP is great but Vista is going to be great too. As
    computer enthusiast we should embrace CHANGE, and EVOLUTION. Only a
    caveman would hold onto something that is old and dying. Is XP dead?
    Nope. But that is testimony to the quality of MS products, products that
    last. Go Vista 64 for a current cycle of excitement. It is totally
    stable.


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    RyanHell078

    Ryan Hell
    Q6600 GO stepper
    Vista 64 (and I love it!)
    XFX 8800 GTX XXX Edition
    XFX 680i LT Sli MoBo
    2 gigs Corsair XMS2 ram
    22inch Viewsonic Monitor
    Antec 900 case
    IT student (networking)
    Crysis player!
    Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
     
    RyanHell078, Feb 8, 2008
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  4. You're partially wrong. Yes, the software is identical to the retail
    version. However, it comes with a different license. The biggest
    disadvantage of an OEM license is that it ties Windows permanently to
    the first computer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved to
    another computer, sold, or given away, except along with that
    computer.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 8, 2008
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    Fesoj Guest

    Yes. And I found this:

    "OEM editions are either x86 or x64, if you wish to switch from one to the
    other you need to buy another copy."
     
    Fesoj, Feb 8, 2008
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    svenbernitt Guest

    Fesoj: In response to your post
    No - I will not trade my machine. Iam a system builder and built thi
    system myself. The OS is not tied to the machine. Once you install it i
    another machine and I install the 64bit edition, the license i
    transferred to you. Upon activation, you will simply have to call th
    800 number and tell them that the OS is installed in ONE computer only.
     
    svenbernitt, Feb 9, 2008
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    svenbernitt Guest

    OK - guys.... I posted my desire to trade verions simply because that'
    what I want to do. I know what OEM stands for, I know what Retail means
    I know that my offer is legitimate, etc, etc. etc..... I am not postin
    to argue peoples incorrect opinions. Many pople out there are unhapp
    with the 64bit edition because of driver incompatibilities; I on th
    other hand don't have this problem hence my offer for an exchange.
    must point out however that I will not trade OEM versions from stor
    brand computers because of licennsing issues. Mine was purchase
    seperately and your 64bit version must have been purchased seperately a
    well. Inasmuch my request is really directed only to people who hav
    built their own systems
     
    svenbernitt, Feb 9, 2008
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    Fesoj Guest

    I think the licence is tied on computer where was software installed first.
    I now you can tell them the software is on only one computer, but it's the
    same case as get original cd with no key. Of course I can use some key from
    google and I'll get fully operational software, but at this moment i'm
    breaking the licence.
     
    Fesoj, Feb 9, 2008
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    svenbernitt Guest

    Fesoj : Sorry - but you just don't understand. The legitimacy of my CD
    is not in question, and I really don't know why you keep challenging
    it. I have a legitimate legal OEM Disk WITH THE CD KEY; PERIOD. The CD
    Key is NOT from Google! It is 100% legitimate.
     
    svenbernitt, Feb 9, 2008
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    If you installed and activate the 32-bit OEM Product Key, then it would not
    allow for activation on any other system. An OEM version is permanently tied
    to the system on which it is first activated. Anyone swapping with you (and
    for the record, this is not a swap board, it is a support forum) would have
    to purchase a new license to use it.
     
    Rick Rogers, Feb 9, 2008
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  11. svenbernitt

    svenbernitt Guest

    Rick Rogers: You are mistaken. As long as it is installed in ONE MACHINE
    ONLY, it is permitted under the EULA. As an "MVP" you should know
    better........ Also, I know that this is not a "swapping board" as you
    put it! It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to turn a
    simple matter into something complicated. If you are bothered by my
    harmless request for a harmlesss exchange of software, then there's no
    need for you to read my post.
     
    svenbernitt, Feb 9, 2008
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  12. Rick is not mistaken. What he (also I and several others here) has
    said is completely correct.

    What you state is true of all versions, retail as well as OEM--it may
    be installed on a single machine at one time. However there is an
    additional rule for OEM versions. It is permanently tied to the first
    computer it is installed on and may never be moved to another. Read
    your EULA.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 9, 2008
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    Carl G Guest

    Hi Yall
    From my own expierence the retail oem works on any computer . With windows
    XP or Win 98 for sure.
    I have bought and used XP home OEM on 4 different computers and never had a
    problem. I just call for activation and tell them I have changed computers
    and it is only on one computer and it gets activated.
    I have no guilt feeling about this as some of you guys seem to think we
    should.
    I bought the dam thing and payed hard earned money for it and it is mine.
    It can't be against the law or MICROSOFT wouldn't activate it.
    Thank you.
     
    Carl G, Feb 9, 2008
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  14. What the rules are and what you can get away with are two different
    things. The EULA prohibits your doing this. If you don't get caught,
    then what you do is between you and your conscience.


    I really don't care whether you have guilt feelings or not.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 9, 2008
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    Carl G Guest

    --
    Carl G

    Not my conscience , but my rights. (IT IS MINE)
    That is because you probably do the same thing but would never admit to it.
     
    Carl G, Feb 9, 2008
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    Seth Guest

    No, it's not yours. You only have a license to operate it under the terms
    of the license agreement.
     
    Seth, Feb 9, 2008
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Indeed, it *is* a simple matter and not at all complicated. The EULA for an
    OEM version of Windows does not provide for transferring to a new machine.
    It is permanently tied to the original system. It's been this way for over a
    decade. You need a retail license to move your copy to a new machine. Your
    request is not harmless as the receiver of your license would find that they
    could not use it. As an MVP, I do_know_better.
     
    Rick Rogers, Feb 9, 2008
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  18. No, it's not yours. What you own is not Windows Vista, but a license
    to use Windows Vista. That license comes with certain rules and
    restrictions, and you therefore have the right to use it under certain
    circumstances, not however you want to. Those rules and circumstances
    were spelled out in the EULA of the product you bought.

    Granted that the rules and restrictions are not clearly-enough made
    evident to everyone who buys what he thinks is Vista (rather than a
    license to use it), but the fact remains that that's what it is.

    Personally I hate this two license situation (Retail vs. OEM) and wish
    that all licenses were the same. But that doesn't change what exists.
    If you move an OEM version from one computer to another, you are
    violating the EULA, and are subject to prosecution for doing so. I
    don't think it's likely that you will be prosecuted, but if Microsoft
    wants to, they can.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 9, 2008
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  19. Although I agree with what you say, please be much more careful of
    your attributions. The way you sent your message makes it look like
    *I* was the person with the opposite point of view.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 9, 2008
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    Seth Guest

    You are correct. I just noticed it myself. I snipped too much of the
    excessive headers.

    Apologies.
     
    Seth, Feb 10, 2008
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