Web sites blocked, Windows update blocked

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by soundman32, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    I have a brand new Dell Vostro 1700 laptop.
    I re-installed Vista Business yesterday, loaded on AVG anti virus. All was
    ok.
    Today, AVG won't update, I can't browse to microsoft.com (+others), and
    Windows Update failes with code 8024402C.

    All other machines on my network (wireless) are working ok, it's just this
    one machine running vista (all others xp).
    I can ping microsoft.com, but it doesn't work even if I type in the
    xx.xx.xx.xx into my browser. It's the same for IE & Firefox, so it doesn't
    sound like a browser issue.

    Any ideas?
    Some sort of virus?
     
    soundman32, Sep 25, 2007
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    Engel Guest

    Engel, Sep 25, 2007
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  3. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    It turns out the problem is that Vista is not compatible with my NAT/firewall
    (an old copy of Kerio).
    After a couple more days it turns out my pro audio (tascam) system doesn't
    have Vista drivers anyway.

    So I've dumped Vista and gone back to XP-SP2 which works first time for
    everything.
     
    soundman32, Oct 1, 2007
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  4. soundman32

    Leythos Guest

    Why are you not using a NAT Router instead of a soft firewall that can
    be exploited and hacked?

    Get a NAT Router and you can use your computer with more safety than a
    personal firewall APP provides.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Oct 1, 2007
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  5. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    Any router can be hacked, be-it hardware or software. The firewall software
    I'm using is a corporate firewall, not some freebie personal one.

    Anyway, the problem is with Vista not my firewall.
     
    soundman32, Oct 1, 2007
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  6. soundman32

    Leythos Guest

    Most all NAT Routers are more/better tested than the Windows Firewall is
    against all of the apps installed on your PC - there are less injection
    points in a NAT router than your PC.

    And just what "Corporate" firewall software are you using that you
    believe is better?

    Does the firewall allow YOU to create rules/exceptions?

    Does the firewall allow the system/you create rules/exceptions to enable
    you to use different networks that you might connect to?

    Since every Vista PC we have, hundreds of them, has never had a problem
    getting to Windows Update, and they are not using some personal firewall
    app, then the problem is most likely your personal firewall and/or how
    it's changed your settings.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Oct 1, 2007
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  7. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    Look, I'm not getting into a flamewar about my firewall is better than yours.

    The firewall I originally mentioned has never been successfully penetrated.
    yes it allows exceptions exacly as you mentioned. It has not been a problem
    with Win98/ME/2K or XP.

    The problem is that Vista is using the DHCP broadcast flag by default
    whereas all previous versions of Windows didn't.

    Of course all your Vista PCs aren't going to have a problem if your firewall
    supports it. Mine doesn't and at the moment I can't afford the time or
    effort to upgrade to one that does.
     
    soundman32, Oct 1, 2007
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  8. soundman32

    Leythos Guest

    I didn't ask for a flamewar - what Firewall is it? Are you going to say
    that you've got the best firewall and then not tell anyone what it is so
    that they can benefit from it?


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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Oct 1, 2007
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  9. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    As I said in my earlier post, it's an old copy of Kerio WinRoute 5.

    I'm not claiming it's the best firewall. It's just never let any attack
    through but it's not compatible with Vista.
     
    soundman32, Oct 1, 2007
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  10. soundman32

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    This is a new one. Please do explain what is a corporate FW. There is no
    such thing as a corporate FW.
     
    Mr. Arnold, Oct 2, 2007
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  11. soundman32

    soundman32 Guest

    A corporate one as in one that is used for a corporation. One that supports
    thousands of users simultaneously as opposed to a personal firewall that
    supports one (or perhaps a few) at home.

    What is going on here?

    Am I being attacked by the Vista zelots?
     
    soundman32, Oct 2, 2007
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  12. soundman32

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    A corporate FW it's not. You must be talking about a network FW of the
    appliance type or software network FW sitting on a gateway computer,
    protecting a LAN.

    I am just trying to find out what you're talking about.

    At the very least, you should know what you're talking about pertaining to
    FW(s), like not calling something a *corporate* FW. ;-) It makes you look
    like you don't know what you are talking about.

    So, I guess you have one of the solutions being talked about in the link,
    and it cost you a pretty penny or two. I am talking $300 or more, since
    it's business classed.

    http://www.more.net/technical/netserv/tcpip/firewalls/
     
    Mr. Arnold, Oct 3, 2007
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