WGA Validation Tool, WGA Notifications

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by kimmo, May 6, 2006.

  1. kimmo

    kimmo Guest

    There has been a lot of discussion about these updates here, but can someone
    explain in nutshell what is difference of these two? Neither of them can be
    removed (the normal way anyway). My other computer has them both, but in the
    other one I have so far denied WGA Notifications installation. Both of them
    have WGA Validation Tool. And both do have a genuine Win XP.
     
    kimmo, May 6, 2006
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  2. WGA Tool checks to see if you have a valid windows installation.

    Genuine Windows FAQ
    http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx

    WGA Notification Application, nags you if you don't.
    Description of the Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications application
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905474


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    | There has been a lot of discussion about these updates here, but can someone
    | explain in nutshell what is difference of these two? Neither of them can be
    | removed (the normal way anyway). My other computer has them both, but in the
    | other one I have so far denied WGA Notifications installation. Both of them
    | have WGA Validation Tool. And both do have a genuine Win XP.
     
    TaurArian [MS-MVP], May 6, 2006
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  3. kimmo

    kimmo Guest

    So no need to get WGA Notification to install. Thanks.
     
    kimmo, May 6, 2006
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  4. Yes there is:

    Microsoft: Users May Have To Prove Legal Windows Use

    Microsoft is piloting an opt-in notification service for its Windows
    Genuine Advantage online verification program in the U.S., which may
    make it mandatory for users to get Automatic Update or Windows Update
    Rights.


    By Paula Rooney, CRN
    May 5, 2006
    URL:
    http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=187200796



    Microsoft may make it mandatory for Windows users to prove they have a
    genuine copy of Windows – or Office -- in order to get updates from
    Automatic Update or Windows Update.

    Last fall, the Redmond, Wash. software giant extended its year-old
    Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) anti-piracy online program that
    notifies Windows customers if they are using counterfeit or illegal
    copies of Windows.

    A pilot of the notification service – called Genuine Software
    Initiative (GSI) -- was initially launched in November in Norway and
    Sweden and then later in five additional countries.

    This week, Microsoft expanded the WGA notifications pilot to a "random
    subset" of English speaking customers in the U.S., U.K., Malaysia,
    Australia and New Zealand.

    Microsoft said the notification service for Windows Genuine Advantage
    in pilot is voluntary but acknowledged that it may become mandatory
    later this year.

    "The WGA Notifications pilot is opt-in, so all participants are given
    a choice about whether or not they wish to participate. Users can
    choose to suppress the notification," according to a statement issued
    by Microsoft to CRN Thursday. " While the pilot is presently opt-in,
    as it expands later in the year, AU and WU customers may be required
    to participate."

    Launched in July 2005 WGA is an online validation tool that enables
    customers to determine whether they have a genuine, legal copy of
    Windows on their PCs. This week, that program was expanded to include
    Office, called Office Genuine Advantage (OGA).

    The notification service is currently in pilot testing for Windows
    Genuine Advantage, Microsoft said.

    As part of the notification service, customers who opt-in to the pilot
    and are found to be running non-genuine versions of Windows will get a
    message during log-on that they are running non genuine Windows and
    will be directed to the WGA web site for details or a recommendation,
    Microsoft said.

    Microsoft said if the customer chooses not to obtain a legal copy of
    Windows at that time, they "will receive reminders" until they are
    running genuine Windows,

    Microsoft on Thursday said it filed lawsuits against eDirectSoftware
    of Montana and two Chicago-area resellers -- Nathan Ballog and Easy
    Computers-- for allegedly distributing illegal copies of Windows.

    In the case against Nathan Ballog, for example, Microsoft said it
    received electronic evidence of alleged wrongdoing via its Windows
    Genuine Advantage (WGA) online program.

    Last September, Microsoft filed eight lawsuits against computer
    companies in Arizona, New York, Minnesota, California and Illinois.

    In one of the cases, against MicroCity4less.com, of Torrance, Calif,
    Microsoft relied in part on evidence submitted by consumers through
    the WGA program.

    The notification service is currently in pilot testing for Windows
    only.

    While privacy advocates may take issue with making it mandatory to get
    updates, many resellers and system builders – whose business is
    undermined by unscrupulous resellers who load illegal copies of
    Windows on PCs, Microsoft says – have endorsed WGA.

    At least one Microsoft solution provider and system builder, however,
    said the notification service may go too far if it harasses customers.

    "Microsoft already has a major issue with customer respect and trust.
    Often times an end user isn't aware of the main components of their
    system, let alone their authenticity," said Mike Healey, CEO of
    TenCorp, Needham, Mass. which was recently acquired by Greenpages.
    "I'm not defending real crooks, but notifications to an end user are
    simply too confusing. Let's hope the notification gives them an 800
    number with a tech support person that will help them resolve their
    question - rather than leave the customer frustrated."

    Microsoft is attacking the piracy problem on both technical and legal
    fronts.

    In the cases filed Thursday against eDirect Software, of Billings,
    Montana, and Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada, in the District of
    Montana, Microsoft alleges violations of copyright and trademark law,
    the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and Anti-Counterfeiting Amendments
    Act.

    Microsoft claims that eDirect Software – "a well known Internet
    company in the channel" has repeatedly distributed counterfeit
    software, tampered with software and provided illegal product keys
    with unlicensed software not authorized for resale.

    In the other two cases, Microsoft alleged counterfeit and hard disk
    loading violations against the two Chicago area resellers based on
    complaints called into its anti-piracy hotline and Microsoft's own
    test purchase program to net violators.

    One observer said Microsoft has rolled out the WGA program slowly to
    ensure it could handle the number of validations and flag false
    positives and claims it benefits resellers as well as customers.

    'Microsoft has offered incentives to people who have been defrauded to
    get a genuine copy [of Windows]," said Michael Cherry, an analyst at
    Directions on Microsoft, a newsletter in Kirkland, Wash.

    "There are definite risks to customers running non-genuine Windows, if
    files were altered or substituted to get around activation or to
    otherwise create the pirated version, then the customer is at risk for
    damaged data or security vulnerabilities," Cherry added. "I don't
    think Microsoft has to supply security patches to customers who cannot
    validate that their copy is genuine."



    Copyright © 2005 CMP Media LLC
     
    David Sherman, May 6, 2006
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  5. kimmo

    kimmo Guest

    I quess the tool is offered via Automatic Updates once more if it becomes
    mandatory. As long as it isn't, it is not anything I need. Thanks.

     
    kimmo, May 12, 2006
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