What AGP card is best for Vista Business?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Leythos, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    Now that I can't get any good scores on any of my computers with
    AGP/PCIx with 64 to 256MB RAM, what cards are people seeing a rating of
    3.0 or higher with?

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    Leythos, Jul 27, 2007
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    Metta Guest

    For business unless you are running graphics intensive software or very
    large monitors a score of 2 is fine!

    If you need the power and run large monitors then anything at or above 512mb
    DDR3 ram
    M
     
    Metta, Jul 27, 2007
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  3. Leythos

    Metta Guest

    Also if you want high scores for graphics, try Gforce 8800 - either GTS or
    GTX at 640mb DDR3 gives max score of 5.9
    as does a AGP 8 Gforce 7800 GS 512mb

    Neither are needed for basic use, only for high end graphic, very large
    monitors or high end games.

    M
     
    Metta, Jul 27, 2007
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  4. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    Thanks, I'm replacing my P4/3.2Ghz machine that has dual 20" screens
    with a Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM machine and I have one game, GuildWars
    that I play on weekends, the rest of the time it's just network design,
    code design, lots of word/excel/visio drawings and such.

    I'll look for the cards you mention above - thanks.


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    Leythos, Jul 27, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest

    In that case you may as well go with PCI Express
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 28, 2007
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  6. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    Can't the machine in Question has AGP only.

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    Leythos
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    Leythos, Jul 28, 2007
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  7. nvidia 7600gt is AGP and is good value.
     
    MrSlartybartfast, Jul 29, 2007
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  8. Leythos

    GeekBoy Guest

    Yes, so that would mean getting new motherboard.
    But why pay the same price for AGO when you can get more performance with
    PCI express?
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 30, 2007
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  9. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    Don't know much about ROI or cost do you?

    New video card to get what I need - about $300

    New motherboard, new CPU's, new Memory for motherboard/CPU's, new video
    card - about $3500

    I have a Dual Xeon CPU system with lots of ECC memory, why would I want
    to change the motherboard and have to go through all that expense when I
    could just go back to windows xp or server 2003? The video card is the
    cheapest solution, staying AGP.

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    Leythos
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    Leythos, Jul 30, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest


    ROI? Better system performance.
    You could have 16 Xeons and the games would still play the same due to the
    slower bus of AGP.
    Intel came out with that in the late 90s.
    Notice there has not been an update in some years while PCI Express is at
    16x.
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 30, 2007
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  11. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    Not true, the AGP bus is plenty fast for most games, including the only
    one I play, I know this because I have other AGP machines that play it
    just fine in XP/2003.
    And, a Dual Xeon hyper-hreaded CPU system with 4GB gets almost 5.x
    across the board in everything except video, and that means that while
    Vista may be nice, the system screams in all modes, apps, development,
    under XP and 2003 just fine. So, we're back to it not being the AGP Bus,
    it's the Vista Video system that's the bottle neck.


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    Leythos
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    Leythos, Jul 30, 2007
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    GeekBoy Guest


    I would agree on that since going from a onboard video (ATI X200) to a $75
    video card upgrade (nVidia 7300 PCIE) only netted a .7 index increase on one
    one f my computers,
    BUT..People spending on those $300 cards claim index at 5.

    I do not beleive you could ever acheive that with AGP
     
    GeekBoy, Jul 31, 2007
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  13. Leythos

    Leythos Guest

    I would be happy with being able to play games at the same performance
    level as on XP, and to get the same level of performance in video as I
    do on XP/2003, there can't be a good reason for the change.

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    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
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    Leythos, Jul 31, 2007
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  14. Leythos

    Metta Guest

    Having responded to the original thread I would like to add a comment.

    I have an AGP 7800 GS that runs perfectly in an old P4 system, inc 1080p
    video and has a good score in Vista. Although it is now an "old pc" it runs
    perfectly.

    I also have a new PCI based board with an 8800 GS card, there is virtually
    no difference in video, but progs etc run considerably faster not because of
    PCI express video but because the processor and ram are bang up to date Duel
    core and DDR2 1066 ram). It cost well over £1000 to build. it cost £150 to
    upgrade the video on the old AGP board . Both work perfectly, but the new
    machine is now used for editing etc because of processing power, nothing to
    do with the graphics card.

    The rush to abandon AGP was unnecessary, it works very well in all but the
    most demanding situations.

    M
     
    Metta, Aug 1, 2007
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