What Antivirus Products Show Up in Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by David H, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. David I have Kaspersky version 6.0.2.614 and the security centre can see it
    fine.

    NIK
     
    nicholas hall, Feb 25, 2007
    #21
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  2. David H

    Rock Guest

    I wouldn't let NIS or Norton AV near my computers.
     
    Rock, Feb 25, 2007
    #22
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  3. David H

    Rock Guest

    There's something messed up with the installation. If you have used the
    Vista compatible versions for those AV products, they should show up in
    security center.
     
    Rock, Feb 25, 2007
    #23
  4. Hello Richard,

    Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
    need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

    Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

    Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
    interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
    (malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
    spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
    help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
    fraudulent or deceptive websites.

    Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
    to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
    security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
    this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

    Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
    provides more levels of defense than ever before.
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 25, 2007
    #24
  5. Hello Jupiter,

    Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
    need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

    Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

    Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
    interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
    (malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
    spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
    help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
    fraudulent or deceptive websites.

    Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
    to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
    security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
    this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

    Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
    provides more levels of defense than ever before.

    --
    Windows Vista
    Become Part of The Legacy!



     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 25, 2007
    #25
  6. Paul,

    Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
    need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask. Considering
    your incredible lack of knowledge regarding Windows Vista as a whole, likely,
    you indeed will need help!

    Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

    Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
    interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
    (malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
    spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
    help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
    fraudulent or deceptive websites.

    Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
    to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
    security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
    this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

    Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
    provides more levels of defense than ever before.

    --
    Windows Vista
    Become Part of The Legacy!
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 25, 2007
    #26
  7. Hello David,

    Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? The
    same URL as previously provided.

    Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

    Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
    interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
    (malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
    spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
    help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
    fraudulent or deceptive websites.

    Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
    to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
    security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
    this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

    Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
    provides more levels of defense than ever before.
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 25, 2007
    #27
  8. Hello ,

    Will you read the brief article below for locating the word "virus"? If you
    need help locating the entire Microsoft article's URL just ask.

    Internet Explorer Dynamic Security Protection

    Through a robust new architecture, Internet Explorer 7 offers multiple,
    interrelated security features to help defend your PC against malware
    (malicious code or unwanted software, including worms, viruses, adware, and
    spyware). Among the browser's dynamic security protections are safeguards to
    help make sure your personal information doesn’t fall into the hands of
    fraudulent or deceptive websites.

    Web browsers perform many functions. They must be open and flexible enough
    to handle a mix of website activity while maintaining sufficiently high
    security to prevent unwanted data access or application behaviors. Managing
    this balance is a top priority for Microsoft.

    Together with Windows Defender, the security built into Internet Explorer 7
    provides more levels of defense than ever before.
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 25, 2007
    #28
  9. Jonathan,

    I believe that You've had your part of the fun, but now it's time to
    step aside and let others handle real problems in an earnest way.

    Regards,

    Detlev
     
    Detlev Rackow, Feb 25, 2007
    #29
  10. There is nothing there that says anti virus protection is not needed.
    "...interrelated security features to help defend your PC against
    malware..."
    That helps and that is good.
    But that does not mean no anti virus protection is needed.
    You are assuming a lot, enough to be dangerous.

    It is noted you ignored my question about 3rd party programs.
    It is also noted you ignored my comment about your statement "What you
    described is Vista just doing its proper job"
    Probably because you know this information is FALSE and has been proven so
    several times in this thread.

    Apparently you are unable to find a source to show anti virus is needed.
    The easy answer is quickly found on any Windows Vista computer.

    Your assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions are dangerous for others
    when followed on the mistaken beliefs.

    --
    Jupiter Jones [MVP]
    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
    http://www.dts-l.org
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Feb 25, 2007
    #30
  11. Mathew Kimball,
    Preface Note: please read my entire brief response, and please don't jump to
    conclusions before the conclusion.

    Mathew, do you have a greater technical knowledge of Vista than Jim
    Allchin's technical knowledge of Vista?

    During 2006 Jim Allchin (before retirement) wrote a very thorough article
    fully discussing and explaining why third party a/v is not necessary when
    using Vista. Did Jim Allchin write do not ever install third party a/v, no.
    Instead, fully explained why those third party a/v will not harm Vista
    because they run with very limited authority never penetrating Vista's
    inherent Security. Has your a/v ever identified a threat of any type?
    (assuming you have not weakened UAC, Defender and IE 7).

    Remain uncertain for a full Reply...my dilemma, how is it possible for
    responding to very stubborn dogmatic person?

    Mathew, you are an intelligent man, why are you asking me questions that you
    should be fully aware?

    Question, which third party applications *repeatedly* create the -most-
    havoc for Vista, and why? The why is the ultimate key for knowledge!

    Forthcoming a partial quote from you, the only thing that "has been proven
    so several times in this thread" Mathew's lack of technical knowledge in
    respect to the inherent Security within Windows Vista.

    Mathew, if you refuse researching the technical reasons for the inherent
    Security within Vista, and refuse believing written articles provided by
    Microsoft employees, please don't assign blame toward me, instead, argue and
    debate the IT PhDs employed by Microsoft. Jim Allchin is retired yet
    available for your debate, although not certain if you would believe Jim
    Allchin, at least at this writing you refuse believing Jim Allchin.

    Mathew, sincere question, are you overly confident believing that only you
    are right, and all others are wrong?

    The manner that you jump to conclusions is somewhat alarming.
    Example, today (and again), within General Discussion, there is a Post with
    Subject Line: C.O.L.A. Linux Advocacy Newcomer FAQ and Primer. The above
    humorous Post discusses why Linux is far beyond an inferior OS.

    Quote from the above C.O.L.A. Post: "Read these carefully before you decide
    to invest time in Linux, you
    may find that you have better things you can do instead."

    Mathew, easily I can guide you to the source for Vista's technical
    knowledge, although, I can not force you for believing facts, don't you think
    it's time for you performing your part?

    My technical knowledge of Windows Vista results from Microsoft, what about
    yours?

    One of these days you might realize the older you get, the more that you
    realize how little you know, maybe, time will determine...

    Shared more than I desired sharing regarding third party a/v...

    --
    Windows Vista
    Become Part of The Legacy!
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 26, 2007
    #31
  12. Give it a rest - please!

    I take it that you are a writer of virus's and you are just trying to prime
    the pump for your wares.

    --


    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



     
    Richard Urban, Feb 26, 2007
    #32
  13. Richard G. Harper, Feb 26, 2007
    #33
  14. David H

    Rock Guest

    Here is Allchin's written response in the Vista blog about the need to use
    an anti-virus program with Vista. It states, in part,

    "Now, the comments have unfortunately been cited out of context implying
    that I said Windows Vista users shouldn’t use antivirus. I want to be clear,
    most users will use some form of antivirus software, and that will be
    appropriate for their scenarios. In fact, Windows Security Center, a great
    feature in Windows Vista, specifically encourages the use of antivirus
    software."

    He never said it wasn't needed. So stop posting this nonsense.

    http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w...006/11/10/windows-vista-defense-in-depth.aspx
     
    Rock, Feb 26, 2007
    #34
  15. "are you overly confident believing that only you are right, and all others
    are wrong"

    Obviously I am not.
    As is obvious, others know the truth as I so obviously I am not the only
    one.
    Now go back and read your sources and keep it in context this time.

    Read Rocks post for clarification as to What Jim said.
    Since you have trouble keeping his original comments in context, this makes
    it clear.

    Suggesting anti virus is not needed can be dangerous for typical users.
    Jim's child's computer in that locked down state is far from typical.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Feb 26, 2007
    #35
  16. David H

    nweissma Guest

    that is correct! vista itself states expressly that the security center will
    not monitor 3rd party antimalware. thus, this does NOT mean that the 3rd
    party s/w is incompatible - it just means that security center will neither
    monitor it nor recognize it. if updates are required, it is strictly between
    you and the 3rd party company; the security center will not notify you that
    updates are needed. this is true even for antivirus software, which onecare,
    and ms in general, does not sponsor. but this is not a problem because the
    3rd party's have an extensive, efficient auto-update mechanism. if you have
    adequate 3rd party coverage then you can simply disable security center.

    nevertheless, i have found windows Defender to be more than adequate for
    moderate warrior use (if you are an extreme warrior, looking for trouble,
    then you may want something more powerful), as is true of Windows firewall.
     
    nweissma, May 13, 2007
    #36
  17. David H

    nweissma Guest

    have you considered a psychiatrist?

     
    nweissma, May 13, 2007
    #37
  18. David H

    nweissma Guest

    god sakes - this nut is playing you like a fiddle!
     
    nweissma, May 13, 2007
    #38
  19. David H

    Rock Guest

    <snip>

    Wonders why someone would reply to a thread that is almost 3 months old.
     
    Rock, May 13, 2007
    #39
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