what does Windows Defender really protects and scans for?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by A.H., Dec 11, 2007.

  1. A.H.

    ArameFarpado Guest

    Em Quinta, 13 de Dezembro de 2007 15:37, ARH escreveu:

    That is not normal at all, with all the malware out there, you guys never
    catch one??
    Are those Anti-virus working at all?

    We have norton corporated on a network of > 200 Pc's and it catch about 100
    virus every day... busy, busy, busy norton...
     
    ArameFarpado, Dec 13, 2007
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  2. I completely agree. In my view, it makes *no* sense for one
    organization to use different anti-virus products on its computers.
    What's pre-installed doesn't matter. The pre-installed stuff should be
    removed, and the anti-virus product of that organization's choice
    should be installed on all the machines.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Dec 13, 2007
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  3. Bomb#20: Why do your ask? If you have a really good antivirus program working, you would never see
    a virus without purposely looking in the history file. AVG kills incoming viruses and I have it
    set not to ask me what to do.
     
    Richard in AZ, Dec 13, 2007
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  4. A.H.

    bomb#20 Guest

    I don't have any antivirus software. I haven't had a virus since XP pre sp1.
    I am trying to find antivirus software to install that actually catches something.
    So far nobody can give me any evidence that their preferred antivirus program
    catches any viruses.
    Would you care to post your AVG history file?
    Thanks.
    ..
     
    bomb#20, Dec 13, 2007
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  5. A.H.

    MICHAEL Guest

    Absolutely, Ken.


    -Michael
     
    MICHAEL, Dec 13, 2007
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  6. A.H.

    MICHAEL Guest

    How do you know you for sure you don't have a critter or two?
    With an AV, I don't trust it absolutely but it is another layer
    of defense... so long as a user doesn't go overboard.

    Some of the more clever critters will actually delete other
    viruses/trojans/spyware.... their goal not destruction but
    deception and stealth. Two of the biggest weaknesses of
    different malware is their presence can be immediately
    felt, either by their destructive payload or they open the
    door for other infections... the computer eventually comes
    to a crawl and even the most ignorant of users finally figures
    out something is wrong. The more evil ones let your computer
    operate normally and even "protecting" you from other infections.


    -Michael
     
    MICHAEL, Dec 13, 2007
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  7. A.H.

    ARH Guest

    No, use the pre-installed free anti-virus programs that came with all these
    systems make much more sense.

    If basic on what you said, we will have to pay a lots of money on license
    fee and updates for each machine?
     
    ARH, Dec 14, 2007
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  8. A.H.

    ARH Guest

    There are quite a few FREE online anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-adware,
    scanners.

    They are from Micro Trend and Comupter Assocates, ... and many more others.
    Its updated every time you run online.
     
    ARH, Dec 14, 2007
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  9. A.H.

    Tom Lake Guest

    We have a site license for Norman (not Norton!) AV and it's much easier to
    manage
    just one program than to deal with the different updating procedures than if
    we used
    a hodge-podge of different AV programs. We only order Dells and delete any
    AV
    programs that come on them. We specify no AV program on configurations
    where
    that's possible.

    Tom Lake
    Information Systems Administrator
    St. Regis Mohawk Tribe
    Environment Division
     
    Tom Lake, Dec 14, 2007
    #29

  10. No you don't. Some of the best antivirus software (Avast and AVG, for
    example) is freeware.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Dec 14, 2007
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  11. Agreed. Why pay for a security measure that by design cannot be
    reliable anyway.
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 14, 2007
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  12. A.H.

    bomb#20 Guest

    Have you tried many of these sort of programs ? I 've not been impressed with those that I've tried.
    If you were going to run one which one would it be ?
    Thanks.
    ..
     
    bomb#20, Dec 14, 2007
    #32
  13. Me neither.
    There really isn't one I can recommend, since they seldom help you the
    day you really need it. But if someone *forced* me to use one I would
    go for one that wouldn't hook deeply into the system and that would
    use as little resources as possible *g*
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 14, 2007
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  14. In my opinion, Windows Defender only defends one thing: Microsoft's
    bottom-line.

    I've found that WD,
    1) Slows Vista down considerably.
    2) Keeps MANY legitimate programs from installing or running.

    Because of these two things, I disable it immediately.
    Watch out, though: Unless you completely disable it in Vista Services,
    it will reenable itself the first time the OS calls its (WD's) hidden
    code.

    Donald L McDaniel
     
    Donald L McDaniel, Dec 14, 2007
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  15. A.H.

    ArameFarpado Guest

    Em Sexta, 14 de Dezembro de 2007 21:15, Straight Talk escreveu:
    That makes 3 of us...

    i have a little virus collection (less than 50 infected files), and it's
    enought to see that AVG and Kaspersky catches only 60% of them, letting 40%
    of them pass away.
    another thing i've found is AVG and Kaspersky do FUD on the users:
    AVG and Kaspersy (specialy AVG) triger a lot of false alarms with cracks and
    key generators... it's just FUD, i've seen AVG go "on" many times when
    handling files there're game cracks or key generators.
     
    ArameFarpado, Dec 14, 2007
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  16. A.H.

    ARH Guest

    That makes no sense at all.

    That means you freeze all your computer models and OS at one time to get
    your license.

    What about next year, and the one after that, and so on...
    We have to keep many different OS and many different computer, for different
    department, etc.

    For example, we have to keep XP for many CAD programs.

    Some still are in Windows 2000.

    We found keeping all those free anti-virus program when we bought the
    systems, seems to be the optimal choice at this time.
     
    ARH, Dec 15, 2007
    #36
  17. I don't have any antivirus software. I haven't had a virus since XP pre
    Same here. Two years continuously connected to the Internet via a NAT
    router - the first year running XP SP2, the second year running Vista Home
    Premium.

    Not a single virus. I know this because three times a year I use
    Kaspersky's online scanner (which they say is as good as their "real" one),
    and every time it comes up blank.

    I don't know what some people do to get virus infections, but I think the
    case for anti-virus software is EXTREMELY weak. Too weak for me to want to
    use it.

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Dec 16, 2007
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  18. A.H.

    Dave Harris Guest

    LOL!

     
    Dave Harris, Dec 17, 2007
    #38
  19. having antivirus software is not about how many viruses it can fine it is
    about a first line of protection so to speak. because antivirus companies
    have realtime scanning,you will be alerted to things that attempt to sneak
    in.the same with anti spyware. not having these programs, means you are an
    easy mark. anything can slip in. computer repair bills are not cheap,
    especialy when it is something that could have been avoided by installing an
    antivirus program.
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 15, 2009
    #39
  20. A.H.

    Alias Guest

    Or use Linux and not have to worry about anti malware or virus programs.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Aug 15, 2009
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