What is a good disk defragmenter for Vista?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Alton Davis, Nov 2, 2007.

  1. Alton Davis

    Alton Davis Guest

    I just got a new laptop with Vista home Premium on it and I'm not sure that
    disk defragmentation works. After an hour or so it says its still
    defragmenting but there's nothing I can see to let me know whether or not
    it's still working. Even if I leave it on all night it never says
    defragmenting is complete. I have two XP machines and they never take
    longer that 10 mins. even though they have a lot of data on them. The
    laptop has nothing but Vista and some programs so it should be much faster
    to defragment.
    Thanks,
    Al
     
    Alton Davis, Nov 2, 2007
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  2. Alton Davis

    brink Guest

    Hi Al

    Auslogics Disk Defrag is a good one for both the 32 and 64 bit Vista

    'Disk Defrag - Reclaim the Speed Of Your Disks
    (http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/

    Shaw

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    brink, Nov 2, 2007
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  3. Alton Davis

    John Hanley Guest

    My Vista Home Premium Disk Defragmentation is scheduled to run automatically
    once per week, and does so without much fuss or bother. On a few occasions
    I look at the Disk Defragmentation window but when I do it simply says that
    it ran successfully at such and such a time etc. I have pretty much gotten
    over the need to see the live defrag progress display as there was in XP;
    now it is something I don't have to bother with.
     
    John Hanley, Nov 2, 2007
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  4. Alton Davis

    David Guest

    Auslogics has a free defragger which is fast and works with Vista.
     
    David, Nov 2, 2007
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  5. Alton Davis

    uhaligani Guest

    This question seems to pop up a lot, concerning Vista. Whatever the
    criticism of Microsoft, on this subject I feel they got it right. Most
    posters such as Alton (with respect, Alton) are asking for something
    with a pretty animated picture. presumably they have the time to sit and
    watch it!
    MS decided, correctly in my opinion, that this was a background
    operation.
    On first use, it is extremely vexing and takes a huge amount of time.
    The computer can be used, but maybe this would be a bad idea. After
    that, when run on schedule, at least in my case, I do not notice it.
    If you read up on it, the new geometry is ver interesting and has
    logic. I have chosen, via the shell commands, to set it to run on ony my
    C: drive. This is a thorough Vista plus, software installation and is
    hardly ever altered. This means, of course, the defragger has little to
    do.
     
    uhaligani, Nov 2, 2007
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  6. MS decided, correctly in my opinion, that this was a background
    Ah, what a joy to read such a sensible assessment!

    Watching coloured blocks shuffle around meaninglessly is a particularly
    nerdish pastime.

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Nov 2, 2007
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  7. Alton Davis

    dzomlija Guest

    Watching the blocks does seem a bit dumb, but it does give a good
    visual cue as to how much fragmentation exists for any given volume.
    There is no reason for Defrag NOT to be a background task, but was it
    really necessary to remove all kind of progress displays? Whether it be
    the traditional blocks display or even a % meter, Windows Vista Defrag
    is tedious in that you don't know how much time is left before the
    defrag is complete!


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    dzomlija, Nov 2, 2007
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  8. Alton Davis

    Lord Takyon Guest


    The first time I used the Vista defrag was straight after install. After 48
    hours it was still going. Rebooted and it said it had already been done but
    needed doing again, this time it was running for 70+hours solid, still never
    finished. The machine was sat idle and there was nothing else on it at that
    stage.

    The inbuilt defrag tool has never actually finished once for me so I use a
    third party app now.
     
    Lord Takyon, Nov 2, 2007
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  9. Disk defragmentation is never complete as long as the machine is in use,
    hence Vista Defrag never officially finishes. Third party defragmenters like
    Diskeeper or PerfectDisk allow a greater degree of scheduling, either low or
    high priority, and also allow the user to optimize the MFT for each
    partition or drive. They do also allow the user to see what is happening,
    but as with all 3rd party defragmenters, it is a visualization and is by no
    means deadly accurate.
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Nov 2, 2007
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  10. Alton Davis

    Alton Davis Guest

    Thanks for all the comments. I downloaded Auslogics Disk Defrag and it
    seems to work well. This laptop will be used mainly for taking notes,
    writing minutes, and giving Powerpoint presentations in various church
    meetings so I don't want any interference while I'm using it. I want to do
    all of the maintenence and updates at one time. Most of the time it's off
    and about the only reason for having an internet connection is to do
    updates. I've turned off automatic updates and haven't installed any
    antivirus software.
    Al
     
    Alton Davis, Nov 2, 2007
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    David Guest

    only a nerd would expect that other users would sit in front of an
    Auslogics screens for entertainment. Ever heard of stepping away from
    your PC for a few minutes? or cruising the 'net while auslogics does
    it's speedy thing??

    Dave
     
    David, Nov 2, 2007
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  12. Alton Davis

    David Guest

    like me, u discovered yet another "feature" of Vista is merely another POS.
     
    David, Nov 2, 2007
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  13. Alton Davis

    David Guest

    I KNEW u would like it! :)

    Dave
     
    David, Nov 2, 2007
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  14. It is the non-nerds who have a history of watching Defrag strut its stuff..
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Nov 2, 2007
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  15. Alton Davis

    David Guest

    You can't seriously believe what u wrote and also have the mental
    faculties sufficient to tie your own shoes.

    Dave
     
    David, Nov 2, 2007
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  16. Alton Davis

    uhaligani Guest

    There are some options which can be changed in the properties of the
    defragger. I would think option "2" would speed things up a bit. I
    cannot understand why there are reports that it has not defragged after
    many hours. I have done countless reinstalls and defrags, since the
    early Beta's, and have never had the problem
     
    uhaligani, Nov 3, 2007
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  17. Alton Davis

    dzomlija Guest

    The problem comes in because the Windows Vista defrag (whether it be
    the GUI version, or the command-line version your mention here) does not
    give any kind of current-progress report. The -v switch only shows a
    status report when defragging is completed.


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    dzomlija, Nov 3, 2007
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  18. Obviously, you have not been around enough non-nerds, as in the more
    computer illiterate, to know.
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Nov 3, 2007
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  19. Alton Davis

    Iain Guest

    Haven't used defrag tool yet on this new laptop, but on my old Win95
    laptop I generally ran chkdsk and defrag tools in "safe mode". This
    seemed to work better and faster in that mode.

    BTW, does "safe mode" still exist under Vista?
     
    Iain, Nov 3, 2007
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  20. Alton Davis

    dzomlija Guest

    I think for as long as the possibility exists that drivers and/or third
    party programs such as viruses and malware can screwup the system, Safe
    Mode will exists.

    Come to think of it, until Microsoft or Apple can come up with a way to
    "Lock-Down" the system in such a manner that Firewalls and Anti-Virus
    software will no longer be required, and that system crashes are a long
    forgotten memory, we'll always need facilities such as Safe Mode.

    But that's why we have Science Fiction, isn't it? Stable systems like
    that only exist in Star Trek...


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    Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
    you die, so shall I be Reborn...

    - ASUS A8N32-SLi-Deluxe
    - AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
    - 4GB DDR400
    - ASUS nVidia 6600
    - Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
    - 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
    - Vista Ultimate x64
    - CodeGear Delphi 2007
     
    dzomlija, Nov 3, 2007
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