What is the administrator password? What if I've never set it?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by john ha, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. john ha

    john ha Guest

    I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.

    But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".

    I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
    password to.

    Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
    privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same, or
    will the vista admin password still remain blank?

    I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my system
    to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password, does
    that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,

    or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
    privileges?

    Thank you again for your help!
     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
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  2. Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP], Mar 19, 2010
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  3. Also To Remote into your Box
    You must have a Password

    However remember the golden rule
    If they have Physical access to your hardware
    they have access...

    If you allow Remote Desktop you will be required for a password
    File sharing on your lan however not.

    If this is a Desktop Your bigest threat is probably not inside your home
    however.
    It's malware.

    Laptop, however you do need to be careful on what you share.

    You can get free Microsoft AV for your home pc at
    http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

    Russ

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    Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP], Mar 19, 2010
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  4. john ha

    john ha Guest

    Thanks Russ, I'm using Vista but not sharing any folders at all on my
    unsecured network.

    However, could a hacker still access the hard drive's files if my admin
    password is blank (since I never set the admin pw up), or even just another
    way, even though I don't share any folders?

    Or is it necessary for me to actually share the folder for them to even
    access it?

    Thank you for your help.


     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
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  5. john ha

    john ha Guest

    Thanks Russ, I'm using Vista but not sharing any folders at all on my
    unsecured network.

    However, could a hacker still access the hard drive's files if my admin
    password is blank (since I never set the admin pw up), or even just another
    way, even though I don't share any folders?

    Or is it necessary for me to actually share the folder for them to even
    access it?

    Thank you for your help.


     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
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  6. john ha

    john ha Guest

    Thanks Russ, I'm using Vista but not sharing any folders at all on my
    unsecured network.

    However, could a hacker still access the hard drive's files if my admin
    password is blank (since I never set the admin pw up), or even just another
    way, even though I don't share any folders?

    Or is it necessary for me to actually share the folder for them to even
    access it?

    Thank you for your help.


     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
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  7. If this is a HOME PC Don't worry
    unless you are trying to hid something from your Wife
    (in which case Shame on you.)

    If this is a work PC it should be in the Domain and controlled anyway.

    If you have wifi make sure it's secure with TKIP not just WEP

    To Re state
    You can SHARE a folder with out passwords.
    They can't access your Full HD without a password unless you shared it with
    no password

    if you want to REMOTE to a hard Drive without it being shared \\PC\C$ you
    need to have a admin password enabled and configured.

    So unless you have Hackers in your House, and your wifi is secure you are
    relatively safe
    Your bigest threat is Botnets and malware
    A good AV will help

    PS Security is a fine line between functional and security.
    How Secure do you want to be? VS how Functional?

    UBER Secure, hard to Function, jumping through Hoops
    Uber Functional No Security, no hoops, no passwords etc.

    But Unless you are trying to hide something you are good
    If you are Still Paranoid.

    When you see the Login Prompt
    Do a Ctrl + Alt + Del and enter "Administrator"
    Password blank
    Then after you login as adminstrator.
    do another Ctrl +alt + Del and change the password
    then enter the Control panel / Users
    and create Secure passwords for each user.

    Oh and REMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE! :)

    Russ
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    Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP], Mar 19, 2010
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  8. I just read
    "Unsecured Network"
    Please explain what you mean by this?

    Russ

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    Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP], Mar 19, 2010
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  9. john ha

    john ha Guest

    Thanks Russ, to answer your question I meant I did not set any password on my
    router, no wpa or wep, it's just totally unsecured. I will secure it but am
    paranoid now that somebody hacked in and stole my files.

    You said, "if you want to REMOTE to a hard Drive without it being shared
    \\PC\C$ you need to have a admin password enabled and configured."

    Does that mean if the administrator account on my computer was never
    enabled, instead just a user account with admin rights, could they log on to
    the
    never enabled admin account with the default blank password vista gives it,
    and just access my hard drive?

    Thanks Russ,

     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
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  10. Secure your WiFi
    NOW
    and you should be ok
    Russ

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    Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP], Mar 20, 2010
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  11. I don't see how. There's no such thing as a "super-administrator."
    All user accounts with administrative permissions are equal.

    By "administrator password" are you referring to that of Vista's
    built-in local Administrator account? If so, that password is blank, by
    default.


    No, it's not the same thing, but it will enable you to perform the same
    tasks. (The built-in Administrator account, for instance, cannot be
    deleted, whereas any other use-created accounts can be.)


    Your creating another account with administrative permissions would
    have absolutely no effect upon the built-in local Administrator account.
    Naturally, it also cannot effect the mythical, non-existent
    "super-administrator."


    Ignoring your continued references to the mythical, non-existent
    "super-administrator," yes, leaving the built-in Administrator account
    without a password is a very severe security vulnerability. Anyone who
    is going to what to hack/crack into a system will know the default
    account name and password. This is why the standard security practice
    is to rename the built-in Administrator account, set a strong password
    on it, and use it only to create another accounts for regular use,
    reserving the Administrator account as a "back door" in case something
    corrupts your regular account(s).




    No. Accounts don't share passwords, unless you deliberately set the
    passwords to be the same. (This is another very bad thing to do,
    security-wise, by the way.)


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    Bruce Chambers, Mar 20, 2010
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