where can I download Vista Service Pack 2?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by John Jay Smith, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. The subject is a joke...

    Vista is not out of beta yet, and it already needs improvments! lol

    Oh I can hear the moaning of the hundreds of thousands of people complaining
    about vista...

    WindowsME = Bloated unstable bad version of win98
    Vista = Bloated unstable bad version of winXP
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 26, 2006
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  2. Betas ALWAYS need improvement. If they didn't they would be RTM releases.

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    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE, Apr 26, 2006
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  3. of course... by the time its RTM it will need SP5 to be usable
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 26, 2006
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  4. John Jay Smith

    Test Man Guest

    What are you on about? Do you know what a "Beta" product is? The whole
    point of a beta of Vista is that it is unfinished, that's why it's a beta.
    So obviously there will be no service packs for it!
     
    Test Man, Apr 26, 2006
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  5. Vista is so bad that it needs service packs even before its released.

    In other words vista has BASIC problems, that they will not change because
    they dont have the time now to rethink them out even if they get the
    feedback.

    Do you get my drift?
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 26, 2006
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  6. John Jay Smith

    Jason Guest

    I recently had a chance to play with Vista 5365 on a friend of mine that is
    a connect beta tester. I would totally disagree with you. The software has
    come a long way and I think alot of users that are currently using 5308 will
    be plesantly supprised. Granted it still has some more work to be done, but
    it isn't even in beta 2 stage yet.

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    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878
     
    Jason, Apr 26, 2006
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    Noozer Guest

    Curious here... What kind of issues are being found in 5365? Is there a list
    of known issues for tat particular build?
     
    Noozer, Apr 26, 2006
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  8. Kind of, it was available with the download itself.

    And Jason is correct, there have been some vast improvements in 5365,
    I'm running Vista x64 on my laptop and it's almost (still not quite)
    running as well as my XP install in terms of speed. There are still one
    or two little things on it, but it's definitely a massive improvement.

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    Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool], Apr 26, 2006
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  9. Great.... I only tested 308.... but no one said that the latest had any
    super improvments...
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 26, 2006
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  10. John Jay Smith

    mamamia Guest

    Yeah, but MS treats RTM releases as if they are still in beta. Around
    here we won't touch any new MS stuff until it has had at least one
    service pack relesed for it.
     
    mamamia, Apr 26, 2006
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  11. John Jay Smith

    Frank Guest

    mamamia wrote:

    ....Around here we won't touch any new MS stuff until it has had at least
    one service pack relesed for it.
     
    Frank, Apr 26, 2006
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  12. There may not even be a service pack. Remember, that Service Packs only
    exist because they are to patch security and flaws in the operating system.
    Because of all the added security in Vista as it is, there may not be need
    for one as such.

    OK there will end up being one, I'm just saying that if they built Vista
    100% foolproof, they'd need no service pack. But Service Pack 1 is expected
    (if needed) late 2007, early 2008.

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    of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    that up!

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    Zack Whittaker, Apr 26, 2006
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    Paul Johnson Guest

    Wow.. AOL!!1! Perhaps you should look up what beta means. "Beta"
    means "unless you don't care that it's going to be buggy and highly subject
    to change, Do Not Run This(tm)".
     
    Paul Johnson, Apr 27, 2006
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  14. John Jay Smith

    Paul Johnson Guest

    Top posting considered harmful.
    http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting

    I'm not normally one to defend Windows, but "beta" means they're probably
    going to change it radically before it ships. They have to: That's why
    beta periods exist. If you're still not perfectly clear what "beta" means,
    this page spells it out better: http://ursine.ca/Beta
     
    Paul Johnson, Apr 27, 2006
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  15. That's a good one <lol>
    Given the complexity of the Vista code, it's a sure bet that there *are*
    overlooked vulnerabilities and/or instabilities that will require correction
    as they are discovered, even if you discount the belated addition of WinFS
    (which, IMO, is the only *real* reason to switch from Win2k or XP).
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    "Zack Whittaker" <> a écrit dans le message de ...
    | There may not even be a service pack. Remember, that Service Packs only
    | exist because they are to patch security and flaws in the operating
    system.
    | Because of all the added security in Vista as it is, there may not be need
    | for one as such.
    |
    | OK there will end up being one, I'm just saying that if they built Vista
    | 100% foolproof, they'd need no service pack. But Service Pack 1 is
    expected
    | (if needed) late 2007, early 2008.
    |
     
    Pierre Szwarc, Apr 27, 2006
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  16. If u don't like vista ... don't use it ;)

    People complain about it a lot ... they should not be using it then ... so
    they would not have to complaint
     
    Deborggraeve Randy, Apr 27, 2006
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  17. sorry, I just cant understand how the best programmers in the world, and a
    company
    that has limitless resources can make bad choices and put them in a beta,
    they whenever they are critisized they cry out "its still beta"

    Beta does not mean you are stupid when making it.

    Bugs are natural to exist, and those I can forgive...
    but plain stupidity I cannot!
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 27, 2006
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  18. sorry, I just cant understand how the best programmers in the world, and a
    FYI, programmers, especially in an organization as large as Microsoft, don't
    make the sort of choices you're referring to. They implement the choices
    made by others, and by the time those choices (specs) come down to them,
    it's not their place to determine what's a good decision and what's not.

    Try to earn a living as a developer for a few years before you criticize
    those in the trade.
     
    Homer J. Simpson, Apr 27, 2006
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    Franz Guest

    You're simply ignorant!
    Because Vista has a new architecture, a new kernel, a new memory manager, a
    new process scheduler, new data and kernel algorithms, I/O improvemens,
    almost of the drivers and components run in user mode and not in kernel mode,
    every user run as standard account and not as admin, etc. etc. etc.
     
    Franz, Apr 27, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    I totaly agree with you Franz. I think we may have anouther Kevin on our
    hands. I say that if you don't like what you see, then don't beta test it.
    I have to give props to MS for rebuilding and making a good beta client in
    5365. I can't wait for beta 2. I will most likely make it my main OS at
    that point.

    --
    Jason

    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878
     
    Jason, Apr 27, 2006
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