Which Registry Repair/System Maintainance software???

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by goorambatman, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. goorambatman

    goorambatman Guest

    There are a lot of System Fixers/Maintainers/Registry Repairers out there,
    which one is the best and what do you recommend?

    I've had good results with Registry Mechanic and heard good things about
    RegistryBooster 2 and noticed that they are Certified Microsoft Partners.
     
    goorambatman, Aug 5, 2008
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  2. I wouldn't recommend any..


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  3. goorambatman

    Malke Guest

    None. It isn't really necessary to "maintain" the registry. If you have
    changes you want to make and can't do it by hand, leave it alone. Or you'll
    be posting back here shortly with a hosed Windows/Office install, crying
    about it. At that point, no one will be sympathetic.

    See this thread for details about registry cleaners:

    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

    Malke
     
    Malke, Aug 5, 2008
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  4. goorambatman

    Ralph Guest

    Mr. Hall gives good advice!

    If you need a registry repair to get the system to boot, then you need one
    procedure.
    1. Back up your files (somehow) - this should be done regularly, and I'm
    as guilty as anyone for not doing it often enough
    2. repair the registry only enough to let the system boot
    3. If it does, back up your files (can't be stressed enough)
    4. Re-install the OS, and start over. (which gets rid of the registry
    mess-up)

    The only use for these things is in dire need. They can, and will cause
    greif.
    If your system boots, you don't want it.
    Don't mess with a system that keeps your computer running, unless you're
    prepared for the results.

    Or for a more personal comparison:
    Don't eat spicy food, unless you can take the results.
     
    Ralph, Aug 5, 2008
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  5. The best advice that anyone can give you is this:

    If you are not competent enough to manually edit the registry, then leave
    well alone.

    In general registry repair software usually ends up causing more trouble
    than it 'apparently' cures. My advise is stay well clear of them.

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  6. goorambatman

    Spirit Guest

    I recommend RegRun Gold or better Platinum. These are not Registry
    Cleaner they guard the registry from being written to as well as other
    system security measures. Been using it for years.

    http://www.greatis.com/security/
     
    Spirit, Aug 5, 2008
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  7. goorambatman

    Spirit Guest

    Besides sophisticated Registry Protection the RegRun Rescue which creates
    an automated backup scenario for the Registry and other important files which
    which you can add to is Excellent.

    http://www.greatis.com/security/rescue.htm

    http://www.greatis.com/security/detail.htm#FULL
    Version Comparisons

    http://www.greatis.com/webhelp/regrunhelp.htm
    More Details

    I recommend RegRun Gold or better Platinum. These are not Registry
    Cleaner they guard the registry from being written to as well as other
    system security measures. Been using it for years.

    http://www.greatis.com/security/
     
    Spirit, Aug 5, 2008
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  8. The best one is *none* of them. I recommend against all such programs.
    Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
    registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
    don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
    what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
    having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Aug 5, 2008
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  9. None of them. They're all virtually useless, and potentially
    dangerous, as well. Any so-called registry "cleaner" is nothing more
    than a worthless snake oil remedy whose sole purpose is to separate you
    from some of your money.


    What "results" did you have? About the best that can be expected is
    that the OS remained usable.

    Snipped....
    Which means only that they've paid a licensing fee to Microsoft so they
    can use Microsoft logos in their advertising material. It *doesn't*
    mean that Microsoft endorses/recommends them or the use of their products.


    Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
    specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
    bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
    using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.

    A little light reading on the subject:

    Why I don’t use registry cleaners | Ed Bott’s Windows Expertise |
    http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html


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    Bruce Chambers, Aug 6, 2008
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  10. goorambatman

    Wingwong Woo Guest

    Sometimes you need to though because some shitware has caused an issue in
    the registry. I use CrapCleaner as it has a very safe reg cleaner and I
    need it to easily clean my system of left over temp files, cookies etc. on
    occasion.
     
    Wingwong Woo, Aug 10, 2008
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  11. I too use CCleaner but I don't use the 'Registry' button

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  12. goorambatman

    Wingwong Woo Guest

    Well, the registry is where the Windows history is stored so it can have
    it's uses too. I don't like progs that leave behind a history of their
    installation so use CCleaner's reg cleaner to delete those too.
     
    Wingwong Woo, Aug 11, 2008
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  13. CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
    version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
    installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
    CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
    registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
    clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
    cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
    *useful* purpose, to start with.)


    This is the only reason to use CCleaner.


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    Bruce Chambers, Aug 12, 2008
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  14. You then want to use a program called Revo Uninstaller, which not only
    uninstalls a program but searches the registry for entries left behind by
    the uninstaller. It highlights the safe keys to delete. Great, great
    program - haven't had a problem using it and, best of all, it's GRATIS!


    Ray :)
     
    Athanasian Creed, Aug 12, 2008
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  15. I'm glad you haven't had a problem using it, but I strongly recommend
    against using any program like this. That's for two reasons:

    1. Although most of the time, doing what it does does not create a
    problem, occasionally it will remove something it shouldn't, and will
    create a problem. If you haven't had a problem using it, consider
    yourself lucky.

    2. Other than saving a tiny amount of disk space, there is *no*
    benefit to removing those orphaned registry entries. It doesn't
    improve your performance at all.

    In my view, running any risk at all, no matter how small, that such a
    program may erroneously remove a needed registry entry, in return for
    zero benefit, is foolhardy.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Aug 12, 2008
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  16. goorambatman

    f/fgeorge Guest

    Tightening up the size of the Registry DOES one thing good and MANY
    things bad. It CAN speed up the loading of the computer, BY A VERY
    SMALL AMOUNT!! THAT is the good thing!!!
    The bad thing....it can make your computer unbootable!!!! If you have
    no clue how to back up the Registry AND restore it if you screw up,
    LEAVE IT ALONE!!!! Yes programs can mess it up really badly too!!!!
     
    f/fgeorge, Aug 12, 2008
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  17. goorambatman

    DDW Guest

    It is SO small that you won't even notice it. A benchmarking tool
    probably wouldn't even notice it.

    "Back in the day" of sloooooooooooow processors, low RAM and small
    slow hard drives it might have been noticable. Today? No way.
     
    DDW, Aug 12, 2008
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  18. Not even that. If it does it at all, it's such a small amount as to be
    unnoticeable.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Aug 12, 2008
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  19. goorambatman

    FJohn52 Guest

    hello. i think one must clean registry periodically. garbidge-keys mak
    OS run slow. also HD's garbidge do the same. i use "vista manager v1.2
    and it's really cool. my vista x64 runs amazing. regard
     
    FJohn52, Aug 13, 2008
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  20. goorambatman

    f/fgeorge Guest

    Agreed
     
    f/fgeorge, Aug 13, 2008
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