Which version of virtual Pc can be installed on Vista Home Premium

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by Robinb, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Robinb

    Steve Jain Guest

    Virtual PC is an application. It adds a couple services and that's
    it. It's very unlikely you'd need to reinstall Vista because you
    installed VPC. I'd say your worst case would be you'd need to use the
    System Restore to set Vista back to before you installed VPC.

    You could just wait until tomorrow as Microsoft is supposedly changing
    the Vista/Virtualization agreements for home basic and home premium.
    Whether this will affect Home Premium as the host also we'll have to
    see.
    http://redmondmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=9438
     
    Steve Jain, Jan 21, 2008
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  2. Robinb

    robinb Guest

    thanks steve for your response
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2008
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  3. Robinb

    robinb Guest

    because i use a lot of microsoft software and I have seen horror stories so
    that is why i am asking for opinions in here on those who use it.
    Who else is a better source of information than the folks in here that now
    use it
    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2008
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  4. Robinb

    Paul Adare Guest

    No Colin, there's a lot more to this than simply marketing. It also comes
    down to test resources during product development. Although Microsoft is a
    big company with lots of money, they do have resources constraints just
    like any other software development house. Adding support for all of the
    Vista SKUs would dramatically increase the testing matrix and the resources
    required for the testing matrix.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 21, 2008
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  5. Robinb

    Paul Adare Guest

    That's what backups are for.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 21, 2008
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  6. Robinb

    Paul Adare Guest

    That's licensing for guests, not support for additional host platforms.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 21, 2008
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  7. I don't see MS adding any consumer editions as supported hosts either. I
    don't even know why they would.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 22, 2008
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  8. Sure. I know that. VPC is portrayed as a business tool. Since its place
    in the marketing plans is as a business tool there's no reason to test on
    the consumer editions. Simple.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 22, 2008
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  9. Robinb

    Jane C Guest

    Robin,

    I have XP Professional running in the VM. I allocated 256MB of RAM to it,
    and it runs quite well for my purposes. My host machine has 2GB RAM, and
    doesn't suffer when running the VM.
     
    Jane C, Jan 22, 2008
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  10. Robinb

    robin Guest

    thanks- what did you designate as hd space?
    robin
     
    robin, Jan 22, 2008
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  11. Robinb

    robin Guest

    actually i use the consumer additon for a business tool.
    I teach computers to beginners and I use this computer to teach them on.
    With the opportunity to run xp pro on it, I can show them a comparison
    between xp and Vista
    which makes the OS a little less scary.
    robin
     
    robin, Jan 22, 2008
    #31
  12. An excellent usage. You will find that the undo disk feature is invaluable
    because you can easily return the virtual machine to the state it was in
    when you started the session. It's like the session simply never happened.
    Great feature for demonstrating because you don't have to keep a ghost image
    of your session opening state around.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 22, 2008
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  13. Robinb

    Steve Jain Guest

    As I mentioned, but there's nothing official yet. Maybe MS will cover
    both in tomorrow's release.
     
    Steve Jain, Jan 22, 2008
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  14. Robinb

    Paul Adare Guest

    No, this has nothing to do with marketing.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 22, 2008
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  15. Robinb

    Jane C Guest

    Hi Robin,

    This one has 6GB allocated as a dynamically-expanding hard disk.
     
    Jane C, Jan 22, 2008
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  16. Robinb

    Paul Adare Guest

    The announcement today relates to being able to use all SKUs of Vista in a
    guest, not as a host OS, and that is a licensing change, not a support
    change.
     
    Paul Adare, Jan 22, 2008
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  17. Robinb

    Robinb Guest

    Jane is there a standard on what memory and hd space you need for XP Pro to
    run on the virtual?
    and if not how did you decide what it would need?
    thanks
    robin
     
    Robinb, Jan 22, 2008
    #37
  18. I run from 256mb to 512mb of allocated ram for XP Pro SP2 guests. It
    depends on the software installed. I use the same way of determining the
    allocation for a vm that I used on my physical machines running XP Pro.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 22, 2008
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  19. Robinb

    robinb Guest

    if you give xp pro 512mbs and your Vista runs 2gigs now- do you see a slow
    down when you run vista? (vista home premium as the host I mean)

    and also how much hd space should you allocate/

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 22, 2008
    #39
  20. No, you don't see a slow down. You are probably thinking in terms of
    emulators. VPC is a virtualization technology. For the difference, see
    http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2004/10/18/243821.aspx.

    For an explantion of the hardware emulated in VPC see
    http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2005/01/26/361361.aspx.

    As to how much to allocate for XP, start with 256mb and allocate more if you
    think you need it. If you had a physical computer how would you figure out
    how much memory to buy for it? You would base it on the needs of the
    programs you run on it. Until you load programs into the virtual machine
    and run them you probably won't know how much to allocate. Who knows, 256mb
    may be enough.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 23, 2008
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