why does \\server\share work and \\server.domain.tld\share not?

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by Bonno Bloksma, May 10, 2010.

  1. Hi,

    As many we still use both netbios/wins and the dns name system. With some servers I have a strange
    fenomenon.

    Question:
    What would be the cause for the failure of the "dir \\mailnew.tio.nl\c$\*.*" command when the
    similar command "dir \\mailnew\c$\*.*" using the netbios name does work?

    Info:
    ----------<quote>---------------------------------
    P:\>dir \\mailnew.tio.nl\c$\*.*
    Er is geen service gestart op het endpoint van het doelnetwerk op het externe systeem.
    ----------<quote>---------------------------------
    .... Which translates to "There is no service started at the endpoint of the targetnetwork on the
    external system"

    ----------<quote>---------------------------------
    P:\>dir \\mailnew\c$\*.*
    Het volume in station \\mailnew\c$ heeft geen naam.
    Het volumenummer is 6C74-B5F2

    Map van \\mailnew\c$

    18-01-2007 19:14 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT
    12-12-2009 12:00 <DIR> Beheer
    18-01-2007 20:31 <DIR> compaq
    18-01-2007 19:14 0 CONFIG.SYS
    19-11-2008 19:24 <DIR> CPQSYSTEM
    26-11-2009 12:31 <DIR> Documents and Settings
    15-08-2007 08:35 <DIR> Downloads
    03-10-2007 09:57 2.142 eAladdinLog-1.txt
    09-05-2010 16:04 41.286 eAladdinLog.txt
    19-11-2008 19:29 <DIR> hp
    30-04-2010 17:12 <DIR> IMail
    18-01-2007 20:46 <DIR> Inetpub
    16-02-2010 09:28 <DIR> perflogs
    15-08-2009 06:03 <DIR> Program Files
    07-12-2007 20:45 254 RegCheck.txt
    10-05-2010 13:35 <DIR> Temp
    02-02-2007 15:12 <DIR> TioBin
    14-04-2010 22:15 <DIR> WINDOWS
    18-01-2007 19:15 <DIR> wmpub
    5 bestand(en) 43.682 bytes
    14 map(pen) 12.198.252.544 bytes beschikbaar
    ----------<quote>---------------------------------
    P:\>nslookup mailnew.tio.nl
    Server: tiodc4.tio.nl
    Address: 172.16.208.10

    Name: mailnew.tio.nl
    Address: 217.114.99.200
    ----------<quote>---------------------------------
    P:\>nbtstat -c

    [..other interfaces ...]

    LAN-verbinding:
    IP-adres van knooppunt: [172.16.208.33] Scope-ID: []

    NetBIOS-tabel met externe cachenamen

    Naam Type Hostadres Duur [sec]
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    MAILNEW <20> Uniek 217.114.99.200 40
    TIOEIN2K3 <20> Uniek 172.16.208.9 15
    TIOEIN2K3.STAF.<54> Uniek 172.16.208.9 317
    ----------<quote>---------------------------------

    As you can see both dns and netbios show the same ip-number for mailnew.
    The target mailnew is a Windows 2003 R2 server. There are some firewalls in between but they are all
    open for this path. The firewall on mailnew itself is not running.

    What would be the cause for the failure of the "dir \\mailnew.tio.nl\c$\*.*" command when the
    similar command "dir \\mailnew\c$\*.*" using the netbios name does work?

    Bonno Bloksma
     
    Bonno Bloksma, May 10, 2010
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  2. In my domain both commands work and give identical results. I think you have
    a DNS problem.

    --
    Richard Mueller
    MVP Directory Services
    Hilltop Lab - http://www.rlmueller.net
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    Richard Mueller [MVP], May 10, 2010
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  3. Hi Richard,
    I'd love to know I have a dns problem but.... what kind of dns problem would produce this result?
    What would I look for?
    All my dns zones are AD internal, all dns servers replicate.

    Another symptom that my be related is that when I am on my machine at home, which has a VPN to the
    company network and uses the same WINS and dns server as the mailnew sever, and I issue the command:
    net use \\mailnew\c$ /user:DOM\logonname
    it will reply within the 1 or 2 seconds asking my password but after providing that it will take 20+
    seconds to come back with the success report.
    After that a dir \\mailnew\c$ will produce the correct result straigh away.

    Doing the same for \\mailnew.tio.nl\c$ I have the same delay after providing my password but also
    after a success report I will have the another long 20+ sec delay when entering the dir command and
    before the results are produced.

    So something is probably wrong but what?


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    Bonno Bloksma
     
    Bonno Bloksma, May 11, 2010
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