Why doesn't WLM leave the left pane alone!

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Skyzoomer, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    I sent the following as a feedback to the Windows Live Mail team vi
    WLM' Help > send feedback option. Posting it here for exposure of th
    problem. Maybe someone knows how to prevent it



    When I move email from my ISP or hotmail folders to the storag
    folders, I open the source folder in the left pane and the contents ar
    displayed in the right pane. Then I scroll the left pane up to show th
    storage folders. I highlight "some" source files in the right pane an
    drag them into the appropriate storage folder in the left pane. ***WL
    immediately scrolls the left pane all the way down withou
    permission!*** This forces me to scroll the left pane up again to b
    able to drag more source email files into the appropriate storag
    folder. I have to repetitiously scroll the left pane until all of th
    source emails are stored in the storage folders

    Please leave the left pane alone! Let the user scroll it "when
    he/she wants to. It would be so much easier and faster to drag sourc
    emails into storage folders if WLM leaves the left pane alone


    Skyzoomer, Jul 21, 2009
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  2. Skyzoomer

    Ron Sommer Guest

    What build are you using?
    How many other people are having your problem?
    My panes do not move when I drag a drop.
    What kind of a mouse are you using?
    Ron Sommer, Jul 21, 2009
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  3. FWIW it would never occur to me to try to do this that way.
    E.g., I think I might use the Edit, Copy to Folder... command
    and be oblivious of such "difficulties". If I was going to use
    a drag and drop procedure I would probably open a Find
    window to hold the source messages and then open the
    target folder in the main application window and maximize that.

    Another thing you might look at is using a compact Folder view
    which shows only what you want in it. Then see if your drag
    and drop technique still works with that. Note that you don't
    even need to have the current folder in your compact Folder view
    to be able to toggle that on and hopefully use it the way you want
    with just your target folder.

    Good luck

    Robert Aldwinckle
    Robert Aldwinckle, Jul 21, 2009
  4. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    WLM Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206
    on both my WinXP Pro PC and my Vista 64bit PC. Both are running th
    version/build I stated above.

    I use a Microsoft PS2 wired mouse on the WinXP Pro PC and a Logitec
    Nano wireless mouse on my Vista 64bit laptop

    I only move mail into storage folders on the WinXP Pro PC but confirme
    that the left pane scrolls down on the Vista 64bit laptop as well, afte
    reading that your left pane does not move. Are there sufficient folder
    in your left pane to scroll it up before you do the drag-and-drop

    Thanks for your input
    Skyzoomer, Jul 21, 2009
  5. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    Skyzoomer, Jul 21, 2009
  6. Skyzoomer

    Ron Sommer Guest

    I tried in mail and news, no movement.
    I am not scrolled to the bottom when I drag and drop. The source folder is
    not visible in the folder pane.
    Ron Sommer, Jul 21, 2009
  7. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    Can't understand why, on both my Vista 64bit and WinXP Pro PCs, the WLM
    left pane always scrolls down to show the "Quick Views" header (which is
    at the very top of my left window pane) after a drag and drop operation
    while yours doesn't.

    Won't belabor this anymore though. WLM works in mysterious ways!
    Thanks for trying,
    Skyzoomer, Jul 22, 2009
  8. Please learn how to reply to posts effectively.
    It is very difficult to see that you had added anything in here.

    For the reason we are discussing? ; }

    View, Layout, Folder pane, Use compact view for Folder pane
    Made most useful by adding the Folder pane toggle to the Toolbar.

    I thought you might try the help but I see as usual it is completely useless for this. ; \

    Robert Aldwinckle, Jul 22, 2009
  9. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    I don't know what you mean. I quote a part of a post then answer that
    Then I quote another part of the post and answer that, etc. I though
    that that method would be more effective than including several previou
    responses in one long string and then answering once at the top o
    bottom. When I see responses like that, I have a hard time figurin
    what part the response is directed to
    different wave lengths. Thanks for your past help anyway

    Skyzoomer, Jul 22, 2009
  10. Skyzoomer

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Sky.
    That's fine. Robert does it all the time and I do too, such as in this
    message. We often alert readers that we're using that style by putting
    something like "Inline..." at the top of our reply so that the reader
    doesn't look for our response at the top or bottom.

    But we have to add an extra linefeed - or something - so that our comment
    doesn't look like it's a part of the quote of the previous reply. Like your
    last paragraph in that last reply - which is on a line that starts with the
    ">" character. How to do this varies with your newsreader.

    The behavior that Robert really was objecting to was your PRIOR reply
    (7/21/09 12:59 PM CDT), which had this paragraph, for example:
    It's very hard to see where the quote ended and your comment began in that
    clip. Inline responses are fine; just be sure we can tell which are YOUR

    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
    R. C. White, Jul 22, 2009
  11. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    Hello RC

    It seems there's a difference in how Robert and you are seeing my post
    compared to how they look on my screen. For example, regarding m
    statement of:

    "Since the left and right panes already exist, why not use them as is.

    The example of that sentence in your post looks entirely different tha
    how it looks on my screen. Here are two screen grabs to illustrate

    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
    This is a screen grab of how your response to me looks


    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
    And this is a screen grab of how my response looks on my screen


    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

    In the first screen grab of your post, I agree that my response t
    Robert is hard to see and separate

    However in the second screen grab, the exact same sentence is clearl
    separate and easy to see

    Maybe it's a bug in the way this forum displays posts. I donno. Bu
    surely Robert and you can see from the second screen grab why I though
    my responses were clear and easy to read. It looks like this forum'
    display coding works in mysterious ways too

    Skyzoomer, Jul 24, 2009
  12. Skyzoomer

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Sky.
    One man's bug is another man's feature. ;^}

    That's why it helps to be actually USING the application you are ASKING

    You are NOT USING WLM!!!

    You are using a BROWSER to access a FORUM.

    Robert and I are using NEWSREADERS to access a NEWSGROUP.

    It's not a bug in my program, or in Robert's - or in yours, either. Each
    program is working as designed, but each is designed to display differently
    because each is designed for a different purpose.

    Strangely enough, we are all seeing exactly the same messages - but they
    look different because we are using different programs. You can never
    expect to see the same interface we do until you also begin to use Windows
    Live Mail, which is the program that you've been asking us about since your
    first post on 7/21. And the program to which THIS newsgroup is dedicated.
    If you want to discuss the Internet Explorer interface to a forum, then
    please ask your question in an IE newsgroup or community, such as
    microsoft.public.internet.explorer . And we can't blame the "forum" to
    which you posted; it simply relayed your messages to the Microsoft public
    news server - and picked the wrong newsgroup to put you in - but that was
    because your first post mentioned that you sent "feedback to the Windows
    Live Mail team" and you were asking about WLM.

    It's sort of like if you called up your Ford dealer to ask about the gauges
    on your dashboard but you forgot to mention that you were driving a Porsche
    .. :>(

    I'm out of this discussion until you post a message actually USING Windows
    Live Mail.

    Good luck.

    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

    R. C. White, Jul 24, 2009
  13. Skyzoomer

    Skyzoomer Guest

    I bought a laptop running Vista 64bit and had some questions so
    googled Vista 64bit forums and found the vistax64.com forums website.
    Yes, I used my browser to read and post in the forums

    Later when I had some Windows Live Mail questions, I noticed tha
    there is a Live Mail forum on the website. So I used my browser to pos
    in this forum. I had absolutely no clue that there was a newsgroup tha
    shared the same forum data

    Your attitude is mind boggling to me for something that I innocentl
    had no clue about. Thanks for leaving as I don't need the stress

    Skyzoomer, Jul 24, 2009
  14. Skyzoomer

    ...winston Guest

    Actually...the content is pulled from this forum to the other source.

    To set up this newsgroup in WLM use this server. It will prompt to download groups, once downloaded subscribe..

    Or..click on this link once the news server account is setup

    Fyi...you may find that the news server is already present when looking at Tools/Accounts under News
    ...winston, Jul 24, 2009
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