Why don't these Windows Updates ever work?

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Guest, Aug 15, 2007.

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    Guest Guest

    XP just won't download updates. Seems to happen every time there are
    updates. Update settings don't matter. Disabled virus and no change. What
    does it take?
    Guest, Aug 15, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    nospam added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    A call to MS support, perhaps? Some updates - SOME - have been
    known to be quite problematical, but I think most XP users will say
    that they do not have long-standing download failures. In my case,
    though, I am VERY cautious about new updates, I lurk in the support
    NGs for a couple days first. And, I ALWAYS set my own RP. Plus,
    there are a small number, probably under 5%, of updates I NEVER
    install because I cannot figure out exactly what they are for and
    what limitations or side-effect problems they may cause.

    I am no techie, but there are plenty around here. I'd suggest you
    be more specific.
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 15, 2007
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    testarke Guest

    I am having the same problem with Windows XP. I have SP2 installed.
    Everytime I go to Windows Update or Automatic Updates are available there are
    77 updates that try to install. All 77 of them fail. No error code is
    testarke, Aug 15, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    I have my update manager set to notify me and wait for my signal to
    download, but the files just won't download. So I went to Windows Udate
    site and it tells me there are 11 update files available. I selected just
    one which should take 1 minute, but nothing happens when I select download
    and install. 30 minutes later still no download. I had this to happen about
    a month ago and it took several days and several fixes to get it all
    finished. There must be something that I'm doing wrong, but have no idea
    what to do. I don't seem to remember this problem before last month. I
    have had this XP since November of last year and all updates worked up to
    the last month problem.
    Guest, Aug 15, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    =?Utf-8?B?dGVzdGFya2U=?= added these comments in the current
    discussion du jour ...
    Hmmm. I just downloaded and installed 4 of the current crop of 9
    updates with no problems. I'm still lurking on the others because
    I've seen evidence of problems.

    One way that may help you is to go directly to MS's update center
    and try from there. I believe there's a special download manager
    that help many people in your boat. If nothing else, pay MS the
    $35 or so it takes for an out-of-warrenty tech support call and
    ask THEM! I've done it before on occasion. You can call back as
    many times as you need on the same issue. And, if they fail to
    find a solution, as they did with some obscure problem I had on
    98, they refund the $35.

    Incidently, I've never needed to turn off my AV, malware scanner,
    or Zone Alarm FW to get updates to work, or, for that matter,
    updating my apps on occasion. The exact best time for a visit of
    Murphy with malware IN the update file somehow is to have your
    protection turned off.

    I spent the last 5 1/2 years of my career at Chrysler as
    Engineering Information Security Manager and learned early one a
    good quote wrt malware or hacking: "the only two kinds of people
    that think they've never been compromised is the ignorant or
    arrogant." I don't THINK I've ever been hacked, but I have been
    infected before, but it was my fault for not having my NAV
    updates correct.

    Good luck with your problem.
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 15, 2007
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    Gis Bun Guest

    Try grabbing the latest Windows (Update) Agent. I think it's at 3.0. Also,
    try and grab the latest BITS. Do a search in the Wondows downloads. Install
    and reboot. Either may require you to verify your XP copy is legit (I'm sure
    it is as it's allowing you to pull the updates from the site).

    If you have had this problem for a while (and at 77 updates, you do) you
    better get ahold of Microsoft's support. Security updates use a toll free
    number in Canada and the US.
    Gis Bun, Aug 15, 2007
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    sdlomi2 Guest

    This oughta help you--it did me ~4 times in last week working on others'
    comp's. I have just tried the suggestion below, recommended by Bob
    ((leanin' cedar)
    in a previous email on this site (see Joe Medford - 8.10.07) - it worked.

    1. Click on Start and then click Run,
    2. In the open field type "REGSVR32 WUAPI.DLL" (without quotation marks) and
    press Enter.
    3. When you receive the "DllRegisterServer in WUAPI.DLL succeeded" message,
    click OK.
    4. Please repeat these steps for each of the following commands:

    Luck, & hth, s
    sdlomi2, Aug 15, 2007
  8. You may wanna try downloading Windows Update Agent 3.0 manually,
    save it to a folder and run the EXE with parameter "/wuforce"
    (without the quotes) afterwards:

    Start -> Run ->
    "[Complete Path to EXE]\WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe" /wuforce [Hit Enter key]
    You've had a look into the windowsupdate.log file already?

    Ottmar Freudenberger, Aug 15, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    I don't have the 77 updates problem. Only 11. What is this BITS?
    Guest, Aug 15, 2007
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    Gis Bun Guest

    Gis Bun, Aug 15, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    nospam added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    VERY good thing to do, IMO!
    I really doubt this is in any way due to user error - yours.
    Updates the normal way or from the update center are pretty
    automagic, so if they constantly fail to download, perhaps you
    either want to call MS for the $35 or whatever they charge today
    and find out why? You can hire a techie like Best Buy's Geek
    Squad, but the cost would be outrageous, and they would likely
    call MS on your behalf. Beyond that, I'm outta suggestions.
    Sorry, wish I could be of more help. And, again, good luck in
    diagnosing the failures.

    As I said earlier, 4 of the current crop downloaded in minutes
    and installed in under a minute, with a required restart of
    course. I'm hanging back on the other 5 until I evaluate problems
    I've seen other people report, but I cannot remember the last
    time I've personally had a problem. Maybe I'm just luckier than
    you! <big grin>
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 15, 2007
  12. Hi,

    I have the same kind of problem - 81 updates downloaded but cannot be
    installed! Any suggestions, anybody? Already tried the suggestions given here
    but no luck!
    Lovejoy Kiljoy, Aug 15, 2007
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    Engel Guest

    Engel, Aug 15, 2007
  14. Hi "sdlomi2",

    Your 04 step process worked for me!

    Lovejoy Kiljoy, Aug 15, 2007
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    Engel Guest

    Hello Lovejoy Kiljoy,

    1.- Use the belt-and-suspenders mode. Make a Restore Point.

    2.- Please confirm your system clock, and Time Zone also the Date aew set
    Having it set incorrectly can cause this type of behaviºr.

    3.- Test this WGA diagnose test, connection to MS, that scripts working and
    a new Validation tool

    4.- Reboot into safe mode

    Download CCleaner (for housekeeping) and Dial-ª-fix to the desktop

    Ccleaner - http://www.ccleaner.com ;
    Note, uncheck Yahoos toolbar during instªll.

    Do the scans with all the check marks ºn.

    Run the above cleaner remover in safe mode then CCleaner on all 3
    settings(windows,apps & issues) and clear anything found reboot and see if it
    still exists.

    NOTE - The first time you run CCleaner's Issues scanner you'll have to keep
    running it back-to-back until it finds nºthing.

    One scenario is a registry key may only be a reference pointing to a
    completely different location in the registry and when it's removed then that
    reference link is also noticed as being invalid on a subsequent scan.

    It's generally a good idea to keep running the Issues scan until nothing is

    There is also a third-party fix which has had good results for a number of
    folks here:

    http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix ;

    Run this program with all the functions activated in safe mºde.

    Please read the page and Scroll down about 2/3 of the way to Download

    Exit Safe Mode (Reboot)

    Try the updates n0w

    You didn't say, or at least it's not clear, whether you tried getting the
    updates using Internet Explorer, by going here:


    Some new ActiveX software has to be installed on XP before your computer can
    be scanned.

    Just follow the prompts to do so, but it should then list and download the
    same updates, and install them, as those you see in the taskbar notificatiºn.

    If going to the site is successful, keep going back until there are no more
    critical updates to install.

    I hope this post is helpful.

    Let us know how it works ºut
    Engel, Aug 15, 2007
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    PA Bear Guest

    Please see this page http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm then post back to this
    thread with the information we'd need to be able to assist you properly.
    PA Bear, Aug 16, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    I thought I had accidentally deleted the file I needed to answer. Anyway, I
    complaining about not being able to download XP updates when notified by the
    yellow shield. I have it set to notify me and wait for my ok to download.
    The problem is that the files don't want to download from the yellow sheild
    prompt or from the Windows Update site. I tried to download them as a group
    and as individual files. It tells me that a file should download in 1
    minute at my speed, but many minutes later there is no change in the
    download process. This same problem happened last month with downloads. I
    remember some workarounds, but did not make note of them because I thought
    it was a one time thing. Wrong again. I was notified of 11 update files. I
    have managed to find 10 of them at other sites and download and install at
    what I consider normal speeds. I have one left to update. It's the NET
    Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1. Latest attempt told me it should download in
    14 minutest at the Windows Update site. So far it has been about 20 minutes
    and it has downloaded 65.00.KB of 10.20 MB. Is this abnormally slow? Do I
    need to change some setting?
    Guest, Aug 17, 2007
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    PA Bear Guest

    While most of us had no problem installing the recent .NET Framework
    updates, there are innumerable reasons why some others had problems. Since
    we can't guess what reasons might apply in your case, it'd be best for you

    Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

    Tip: Temporarily disable real-time protection by your anti-virus and/or
    anti-spyware applications (e.g., CounterSpy, Spysweeper, Spybot, AVG
    Anti-Spyware) and/or any third-party firewall (e.g., ZA) before attempting
    to install the update(s).
    PA Bear, Aug 17, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    I will do this as soon as I get everything back to what I call normal

    I had already done this. (AVG) Don't have a 3rd pty. firewall. Even
    disabled Windows version.
    In desperation I downloaded a Net cleanup tool today and the result left me
    with errors in some HP printer files. No problem. I just deleted the printer
    stuff in Control Panel. Got rid of the errors. I will reinstall later.
    Don't use printer more that once a month, anyway. My Control Panel
    ..NET.Framwork was 1.1. The cleanup left 1.0. Now my Windows update says no
    critical updates, but 6 Optional, including Net 1.1
    NET 2.0 and NET 3.0 and some other stuff. Should I download the NET's?
    NET 2.0 and 3.0 have KB numbers and I can probalby find them at another
    site. Is there someplace where I can find NET 1.1 other than at the Windows
    Update site? I have already tried to download 1.1 with the same reults as
    before. Everything seems to be working on my PC as far as I can tell.. In
    case I should download the newer NETS, should I install before or after the
    HP Printer files? Sorry about all this mess, but don't know where else to
    find answers.
    Thanks for your time and patience..

    Guest, Aug 18, 2007
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