Why is this discussion system so rubbish?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by topofall, Feb 3, 2007.

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    topofall Guest

    You click on subjects, nothing happens! You click an answer and get a blank
    page!You post a message and it doesn't appear!

    Why is this discussion system so rubbish?

    Microsoft spend some time putting a decent forum in place!
    topofall, Feb 3, 2007
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    Spanky McFly Guest

    Sounds like you have a personal problem.

    I click on subjects, I see questions and answers.

    I post a message and it MAGICALLY appears.

    I learn from discussions and sometimes participate.

    The only rubbish right now is YOURS!

    Have a nice day.
    Spanky McFly, Feb 3, 2007
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  3. I`ve been utilizing this forum ever since it began and have never encountered a problem. I am quite sure that the vast majority of users will agree with me. It has been interesting, informative, and very useful to me. ................ JRH.
    Administrator/jhafele, Feb 3, 2007
  4. Instead of the stupid Web interface use a news reader.

    Vista comes with Windows Mail which already has the Microsoft Communities
    set up for NNTP access.
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, Feb 3, 2007
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    Sly Dog Guest


    There's nothing wrong with the forum - It's Operator Error.

    I'm subscribed to GigaNews and use VISTA Windows Mail to access the forum.

    You can setup your Outlook Express or Windows Mail to access the FREE MS
    news server - It's a lot more reliable than going through the website GUI...

    See - You can put aside your frustration and get busy with the solution :)
    Sly Dog, Feb 3, 2007

  6. Most of us aren't using the web interface. This forum is actually a
    newsgroup, and it can be accessed much more efficiently using a newsreader,
    like Windows Mail. There are also thousand of other newsgroups, but on
    other newsservers. If you click on the following link, this newsgroup
    *should* open up for you in Windows Mail.


    Synapse Syndrome, Feb 3, 2007
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    Paul Smith Guest

    Start -> Windows Mail -> Click Microsoft Communities. Forget about the web
    front end.
    It's a newsgroup not a forum.

    Paul Smith,
    Yeovil, UK.
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.

    *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
    Paul Smith, Feb 3, 2007
  8. Actually, I think you'll have to put in some account details first. Don't
    use your real email address, unless you want to receive lots of spam.

    Synapse Syndrome, Feb 3, 2007
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    Rock Guest

    You have a misunderstanding. These are not forums, but actually Usenet
    newsgroups. The web interface is a kludge for access and is awful. Use a
    newsreader to access these newsgroups through NNTP and the microsoft news
    server. Outlook Express in XP and Windows Mail in Vista can be set up for
    newsgroup access. There are other newsreaders too. Do yourself a favor and
    use one.
    Rock, Feb 3, 2007
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    Jon Guest

    Did you mean to write something?
    Jon, Feb 3, 2007
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    Dale Guest

    Wow. You got a lot of trouble for that one.

    Let me be the first to say I agree. I have seen the same problems. Its
    intermittent but it does happen. When it happens the only solution is to
    double-click and see the entire thread in a new window. I sure haven't
    found a work around except to do what others have suggested; use Windows
    Mail. Windows Mail is still just a workaround though. There are a lot of
    reasons to use the web based reader over Windows Mail:

    You can't search the entire group in Windows Mail, only in what you've

    You can't vote on whether a reply was useful or not useful, or whether
    it was the answer to your question or not.

    The web reader also has the "Suggestion to Microsoft" option which you
    cannot get to using a news reader such as Windows Mail.

    You cannot create a link from a message in your newsreader to post as a
    reply to a similar question in another thread.

    Group policy restrictions at work prevent me from opening Outlook
    Express (and will, in 4 or 5 years when we go to Vista, presumably prevent
    opening Windows Mail) but allows me to go to the web readers.

    I just haven't found a way to get Microsoft's attention on these bugs.
    Perhaps they are aware and working on them. Perhaps they're aware and have
    other priorities. Perhaps they don't care. Perhaps they just need for you
    or me to figure out how to make them aware.

    Dale, Feb 3, 2007
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    BSchnur Guest

    Microsoft spend some time putting a decent forum in place!

    Get an NNTP newsreader instead..
    BSchnur, Feb 4, 2007
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    Bill Condie Guest

    What's it do that MS Communities doesn't?

    Bill Condie, Feb 4, 2007
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    BSchnur Guest

    Allows you to download the message base (selectively in terms of number
    of messages downloaded), then read and reply to them off-line.

    I've been doing 'newsgroup' based volunteer support for 20 years
    (started back in 1987 with Borland as a TeamB sysop -- where I met
    Charlie Russel -- one of the helpful folks here).

    Back then it was Compuserve 300 to 1200 baud. Offline readers were
    absolutely essential then.

    These days, I still find them essential -- especially if one is
    involved in multiple newsgroups with multiple servers.

    I'm using MicroPlanet Gravity, but there are several others out there.

    One thing for me, it is an entirely separate entity from my email
    handling (I prefer not to intermingle those). I use Thunderbird for my
    email and could use it for newsgroup support, I just find that a
    separate reader works much better for me and provides features that are
    very useful in the newsgroup environment.
    BSchnur, Feb 4, 2007
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