Why is Windows Vista such a P.O.S.

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Brian Kitt, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. Brian Kitt

    Brian Kitt Guest

    I have been a developer since early 80's. I've been disappointed, and
    re-disappointed year after year at the lower and lower quality of crap that
    Microsoft pushes on us. But Vista absolutely takes the cake. I've been
    running it for a year, and still get frustrated every single day about what a
    total worthless pile of crap this is. Why can't Microsoft stop spening money
    trying to convince people this piece of trash is good, and spend some money
    trying to do R&D and fix this. I'm sick and tired of constant crashes,
    lockups, and hanging. This is the most worthless piece of software Microsoft
    has ever developed.
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 24, 2008
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    Brian Kitt Guest

    Oh, I'm on a Toshiba x205-s7483 Intel Core Duo 1.66ghz with 4Gig Ram. This
    computer is one of the most powerful laptops on the market, and Vista
    absolutely degrades it to a relic of the 60's.
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 24, 2008
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    mikeyhsd Guest

    very peculiar.
    I run an AMD 64 bit dual core 6000 processor with vista ultimate and it is ROCK SOLID.

    if you are having that many problems I'd suggest looking into the 3rd party program you have installed and using.






    I have been a developer since early 80's. I've been disappointed, and
    re-disappointed year after year at the lower and lower quality of crap that
    Microsoft pushes on us. But Vista absolutely takes the cake. I've been
    running it for a year, and still get frustrated every single day about what a
    total worthless pile of crap this is. Why can't Microsoft stop spening money
    trying to convince people this piece of trash is good, and spend some money
    trying to do R&D and fix this. I'm sick and tired of constant crashes,
    lockups, and hanging. This is the most worthless piece of software Microsoft
    has ever developed.
     
    mikeyhsd, Nov 25, 2008
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    Drew Guest

    Talk to Toshiba.. They are the ones that built you a "piece of crap!" I have
    been running Vista business on a core2 duo 1.86 with 4gigs of ram since the
    days of the beta's and never a crash,, never a slowdown, never anything that
    could be blamed on vista. Many thousands of people run Vista quite well on
    specs slower than yours. I would suggest you look to the so called builders
    before blaming Vista... Past experience with laptops and anything oem on
    computers for that fact to me says "stay away!".. besides is it really Vista
    if Toshiba gets its hands on it and changes many things within the op
    system. How do we know that they didn't mess it up and now you point the
    blame on something that invariably is not the problem. Just my 3 cents and
    prepare to get bombarded by many agreeing with me!
     
    Drew, Nov 25, 2008
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    Kayman Guest

    Drivers, drivers, drivers, drivers... :)

    Mark Russinovich talks Vista performance
    http://blogs.technet.com/deployment...mark-russinovich-talks-vista-performance.aspx
    https://ms.istreamplanet.com/SPRINGBOARD/portal.asp
     
    Kayman, Nov 25, 2008
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  6. Do you have any specific problem(s) with which you need help, or
    are you just venting?

    What very little detail you included points towards an issue of
    incompatible/sub-standard/defective hardware, or device drivers,
    incompatible software, and defective/sub-standard wetware.


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    Bruce Chambers, Nov 25, 2008
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  7. I have been a developer since early 80's.

    You know, that really worries me. It's obvious to everybody, and SHOULD be
    obvious to you, that Vista would never have escaped into the wild with such
    fundamental problems as you describe. There's something wrong with your
    particular machine.

    My guess would by crap hardware, or crap drivers.

    It worries me that someone who claims to be a developer since the early 80s
    is so incapable of working that out for himself.

    Are you incompetent, or just a dinosaur?

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Nov 25, 2008
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    Brian Kitt Guest

    I have seen a LOT of people reporting the same issues I am seeing with Vista,
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 25, 2008
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    Brian Kitt Guest

    Steve, that is my point in frustration. There are so many problems in Vista,
    I can't believe it was released. I see the same frustrations and problems I
    have on other forums, and co-works. Everyone I talk to has the same
    complaints. It's not me dude, it's the software.
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 25, 2008
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    Brian Kitt Guest

    I run pretty much only Microsoft software. I never install trial programs,
    or freebies from the internet. I run only purchased software, and I don't
    use this computer for 'casual' use. In other words, there is nothing on here
    that shouldn't be. No spyware, no virus, no junk. I don't have music on
    this machine, I don't have any file sharing utilties, nothing. It's as
    stripped down as possible, and I still have constant locking and hanging. I
    would like to revert back to XP Pro, but Toshiba does not make drivers for XP
    Pro, so I don't have that option.
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 25, 2008
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    Brian Kitt Guest

    I don't know. I am running latest drivers from Toshiba, and all patches from
    Microsoft. I have no special (non Microsoft) software installed on this
    machine, it is a coding machine, and I install as little as possible to
    reduce overhead.
     
    Brian Kitt, Nov 25, 2008
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    Randall Guest

    You need to get out of the house more. There are millions of happy
    users who never have a problem.

    Must be differences in hardware, hmmm?

    And of course, the difference in users.
     
    Randall, Nov 25, 2008
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    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> Brian
    And yet, you'd be wrong. It's not *just* Toshiba, Sony and Dell are
    equally guilty.

    Contact Toshiba and see if they can supply you with an actual Vista
    installation DVD, not a recovery disk, and if so, install Vista from
    there, install only the drivers needed from Toshiba's website and not
    any of the other crap that Toshiba distributes.

    I've got a Toshiba here and it runs Vista Business x86 beautifully after
    having reinstalled Vista from clean media.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=383 and
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=399 cover Sony's issues.
     
    DevilsPGD, Nov 25, 2008
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    Mick Murphy Guest

    Mick Murphy, Nov 25, 2008
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  15. Steve, that is my point in frustration. There are so many problems in
    What problems? Be specific. Don't just rant.

    Here's the bottom line: Vista itself is stable - it doesn't crash or freeze.

    If your (or anyone else's) machine is crashing or freezing it is due to:

    1/ dodgy hardware (overclocked, overheating, overloaded, out-of-spec,
    failing, etc), or

    2/ dodgy 3rd party drivers (and there are plenty of those around)

    BOTH of those will render XP, Linux, MacOSX and all the others unstable,
    too. Not just Vista.

    Finally, remember that various applications are prone to crashing -
    especially those that were released before Vista and haven't been updated to
    Vista-compatible. But that, of course, is not the fault of Vista.

    So come on, mate, put your money where your mouth is. Show us the
    "problems" and we'll get to the bottom of whether they are due to Vista, or
    due to something else.

    If you won't do that, then you're wasting everyone's time.

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Nov 25, 2008
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    Gordon Guest

    I have PERFECTLY adequate performance on my Toshiba Duo Core with 2GB RAM.

    Maybe you are installing a load of crap ontop of a perfectly good OS?
     
    Gordon, Nov 25, 2008
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  17. Tell the millions of people who run Vista without any of the problems you
    are experiencing that Vista is crap. They would likely disagree with you -
    as I do.

    Is it perfect - not by a long shot!

    Is it serviceable? Absolutely!
     
    Richard Urban, Nov 25, 2008
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    Fred, Nov 25, 2008
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    anna Guest

    My only complaint so far is that Outlook Express Junk mail folder is so
    dumbed down it can't be taught what is not junk and what IS junk. I don't
    know why they released it that way unless they want to have a full
    functioning Outlook Express junk mail filter in the next version.

    Other issues have been corrected such as removing the Hibernate file when
    the system is cleaned. But maybe that was a problem with MS One Care.

    I like my HP Pavilion DV with Vista Home Premium. Hardware works just fine.

    @nna
     
    anna, Nov 25, 2008
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    anna Guest


    Vista would be a night mare if you put it over a piece of hardware not
    designed for Vista. Only a new machine with specific hardware and approved
    drivers should be used. Some computer makers try to recycle old hardware
    with a new operating system and call it a new machine. It has been long
    enough now there should be proper drivers for old hardware. If you have the
    time, look at the production date of your hardware in the Toshiba. I bet it
    was retooled for Vista and released just about the same time Vista was
    coming out.

    Did you get it on a brand new Toshiba? Or did you pieces part a machine
    with your old hardware you don't want to part with? Not saying it is your
    fault, but Vista is an animal that is very specific in what is will run.
    [Yes that does not make MS friends with a lot of users] It had a bad
    reputation with techies when it leaked out about the hardware dumbing down
    it will do. It is NOT as flexible as 2000, or even XP. That is my
    complaint. I don't do techy stuff with my Vista machine. It is only for
    production, web pages, email and communiction and surfing the Internet.
     
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