Will MS sell version-to-version upgrades?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. Since all Vista versions come on a single DVD, will MS sell
    version-to-version upgrades? That is, if I have one version of Vista
    and I want any one of potentially several higher versions (for the same
    machine, effectively replacing the lower version), will there be a place
    I can go to on the MS web site, pay a "version difference" fee and get a
    product key for the higher version?

    If so, does anyone know the version-to-version upgrade pricing?
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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    John Barnes Guest

    As Chad pointed out the upgrades will be available from various sources, the
    OEM's and retailers will sell upgrades
     
    John Barnes, Oct 28, 2006
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  4. I'm not talking about the current "technology assurance" program. I'm
    just asking if, in general, a Vista licensee has some version of Vista
    (below ultimate) and wants to upgrade to some higher version, will he be
    able to do so without buying an entirely new copy of Vista?
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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  5. I'm not talking about the current "technology assurance" program. I'm
    just asking if, in general, a Vista licensee has some version of Vista
    (below ultimate) and wants to upgrade to some higher version, will he be
    able to do so without buying an entirely new copy of Vista?
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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  6. And what about my question leads you to believe that it has anything
    whatsoever to do with the current "technology assurance" program? I'm
    just asking the question with regard to anyone who has any version of
    Vista below ultimate and who wants to upgrade to a "higher" version. It
    has nothing to do with upgrades from XP.
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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    John Barnes Guest

    And exactly what makes you think I was referring to 'technology assurance'
    I wasn't
     
    John Barnes, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    Again again the EULA is under discussion by MSFT--it's not final so I would
    stay tuned if you're concerned in the context of the EULA. This message was
    posted on the Vista team blog yesterday. Underdiscussion means it ain't
    final yet, and I don't have a hotline to Ashleigh the lapdancin' fortune
    teller in that trailor off Route 38. So stay tuned.

    It's under discussion --EULA isn't finalized for Vista yet. And until it's
    made clear by MSFT ain't no body gonna be able to make it clear for you.
    Google the Vista EULA or read Robert McLaw's site, Ed Bott's site--I have
    posted the latest EULA links dozens of times. What you seem to want is
    eduated speculation and you can find plenty of that on the web, but under
    discussion means it's being bounced around.

    I predict the Kill Switch which many of us object to because it can often
    kill the wrong box will be modified. But that's a prediction.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

     
    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    What about your question led me not to understand it Barry was your use of
    the English language to form it.

    The answer to that question is easy. If you get your hands on a retail DVD
    YES. On the DVD you get retail you'll be able to upgrade from versions
    below Vista Ultimate to versions with more features. They will have keys
    that can be unlocked by paying the appropriate premium. It's your job if
    you buy a computer from one of the OEM named partners to check and see if
    you can get the OS on a DVD. Most people didn't do much of a job of that
    during the reign of XP--those of us who have helped with hundreds of
    recoveries of no boot BSODs have gotten a good idea of that.

    As you can see from tons of sites on the web, and an OEM partner site you
    go to, there will be different upgrade paths with Vista for EDITIONS which
    is what you're talking about available also from OEM preloads apparently.
    Check them out. I think much of this is still in a work in progress.

    I have a tip for you though--that goes to the difference between being
    streetwise and a real chump.

    Since new computer fever is in the air, or what I consider much smarter,
    building your own new computer if it's a desktop, I wouldn't pay a cent to
    an OEM without insisting you get a Vista DVD. Dell is apparantely taking a
    new step to ensure every purchaser gets one. From the Dell blog in the last
    10 days:

    http://www.direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2006/10/17/3132.aspx

    "Also, though this been in the works for some time before now, it's now
    official. For U.S. consumer and small business customers, all systems will
    now ship with an operating system disc. This change will take effect in
    Europe by later next month. In Asia, things are unchanged-we've always
    shipped OS discs."

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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    Robert Firth Guest

    Yes they will... if you right click on 'Computer', select 'Properties',
    under where it says "Windows edition" there is a link to "upgrade my version
    of windows". There you can upgrade your version without re-installing.

    Of course, if you have the Ultimate edition, that link will not appear. I
    suppose that's why you haven't seen it :)

    Robert Firth
    http://www.winvistainfo.org
     
    Robert Firth, Oct 28, 2006
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    Jane C Guest

    Indded so. It is called 'Windows Anytime Upgrade', and will allow someone
    with Home Basic to upgrade to either Home Premium, or Ultimate. Business
    Edition can be upgraded to Ultimate. Somebody using Home Premium can
    upgrade to Ultimate too.
     
    Jane C, Oct 28, 2006
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    Robert Firth Guest

    Robert Firth, Oct 28, 2006
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  14. Dell has for years offered an OS CD as an option for an extra $10, and
    I've made sure that every Dell order I was involved in included it
    (whether the computer was for me or anyone else). As you note, they
    have within the last 30 days or so just made that standard in every
    system (no longer have to pay extra or, more than the money, take the
    care to include the item). On other computers, if they don't have
    media, I burn the recovery files to a cd or dvd (mfgrs are required by
    MS to provide either restore media or the files necessary to restore
    Windows on the hard drive ... which, however, is of little use if the
    hard drive has failed).

    What I was asking ... what your response indicates is available (if this
    is accurate) ... is whether, when one has a Microsoft Vista media, they
    can upgrade the version (or perhaps edition is the correct term). Your
    response says that they can. Do you have a link to where on the MS web
    site this can be done, and in particular the version-to-version price
    schedule? [Of course I do realize that since Vista isn't out yet, this
    might not be available yet.]

    One point being, I'm thinking of buying a Dell laptop that will come
    with XP Media Center. Dell is offering a subsequent free upgrade from
    MCE to EITHER Vista Home Premium or Vista Business (buyer's choice, both
    free (ignoring a possible shipping charge). On the one hand, of those
    two, I'd rather have Home Premium for actual personal use. But in fact
    what I might most want to do is upgrade to Ultimate, and the upgrade
    from Business to Ultimate may cost less than the upgrade from Home
    Premium to Ultimate. So it would be nice to know the various
    version-to-version (edition-to-edition) upgrade prices before this
    choice has to be made (at the time of ordering the laptop, apparently).
    [Note, there is no option, as far as I know, to get ultimate from
    Dell; Dell is offering Home Premium or Business. What the buyer will
    actually get from Dell, I belive, is Microsoft generic upgrade media
    with the appropriate activation key, more or less the same as you would
    get in a store (althought the kay may be OEM instead of retail). Any
    upgrade from that to Ultimate would be done later, presumably via
    Microsoft directly.]
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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  15. Ok, now where can I get the version-to-version (or perhaps more
    correctly the "edition-to-edition") pricing?
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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    Robert Firth Guest

    As far as I know, those have yet to be announced, but I think I heard
    someone mention the prices the other day, so I could be wrong.

    If you are looking at buying a new PC, their is more information on "Express
    Upgrade", the program that allows you to upgrade to Vista for free or
    reduced cost if you buy a PC from now until Vista's launch:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/expressupgrade.mspx

    I realize that this doesn't really answer the question, but it is somewhat
    related...

    Robert Firth
    http://www.winvistainfo.org
     
    Robert Firth, Oct 28, 2006
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  17. Every OEM has their own upgrade program ... there isn't a single
    program. But I'm looking at Dell and Toshiba (and, in fact, at retail,
    the retailers are in some cases further modifying the program of the OEMs)
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    Barry--

    I'm in US so I am listing this in US dollars:
    Pricing for full retail versions of the software will be Windows Vista
    Ultimate, $399; Windows Vista Business, $299; Windows Vista Home Premium,
    $239; and Windows Vista Home Basic, $199.
    Upgrades from Windows XP are priced at Windows Vista Ultimate, $259; Windows
    Vista Business, $199; Windows Vista Home Premium, $159; and Windows Vista
    Home Basic, $99.

    hth,

    CH

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    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    Barry--

    Here is additional license pricing. I don't have pricing on upgrading Vista
    editions from one edition to another and as to what OEMs will do, this still
    is in early stages. I can't repeat enough if you do buy any OEM boxes,
    insist they give you an OS DVD. Don't be left high and dry like the
    majority of XP OEM box buyers without the XP CD.

    http://www.windows-now.com/blogs/ro...s-Vista-Pricing-and-Launch-Date-Revealed.aspx

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=124

    An additional incentive seems to be that the Vista DVD will have
    availability as well to upgrade editions.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Oct 28, 2006
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  20. I'm in the US also, but that doesn't answer the question. What I want
    is the upgrade price from one version (edition) of VISTA to higher
    versions of VISTA.
     
    Barry Watzman, Oct 28, 2006
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