win 64 bit install

Discussion in 'Windows 64 Bit' started by stuartmethven, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. i am trying to install 64 bit with no luck at all.
    gigabyte k8nxp-9 with 3200+ amd
    tried all kids of things still no go . what happens is that it loads up to
    the part when it says starting windows "blue screen part of install at
    beginning" then it reboots instead of continuing to the f8 screen etc. one
    thing i have noticed is that if i install longhorn 32 bit i can then install
    up to the part where u get a chance to format and chose hard drive after that
    it re boots again. am pullin m hair out here help me please
     
    stuartmethven, Aug 12, 2005
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  2. This is a similar situation that was faced by some else earlier, here is a
    recommendation that was posted by Charlie Russell for that problem:
    Download updated drivers for your RAID array, and use F6 during the
    installation. Drivers can be found at the mfg web site, the raid controller
    mfg's web site, or www.planetamd64.com.
     
    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Aug 12, 2005
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  3. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    Hi Stuart,

    Probably not exactly a help but I have installed XP Pro x64 on exactly the
    same Gigabyte motherboard last week with an Athlon 64 x2 4400MHz and 2G of
    Dual Channel RAM (fresh machine I just built) and using 1 x 300Gb SATA Main
    Drive (no RAID).

    I have to say that I have never, in all my years of installing various
    flavours of Windows, had such a "smooth as silk" install and subsequent
    operation in my life. It runs everything I throw at it like an absolute
    rocket, whether that be 32 or 64bit and I am very pleased with it. It drives
    my ageing HP LaserJet 5L printer fine with the resident drivers and the
    NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 64bit drivers and a Dell 2005FPW 20" (W) 16ms TFT
    is blindingly quick and stable. I'm really pleased with it all as a system.

    Perhaps as someone else has suggested (since I'm not using it or even have
    it enabled), RAID may be the cause of your instability? Have you tried
    disabling RAID temporarily and using 1 drive to do a test install?

    I fully expected to be scraping around for all sorts of 64bit drivers but
    the only ones I'm looking for now are from Logitech (webcam - my keyboard
    and mouse are already supported at 64 bit), Epson (915 Photo Stylus printer)
    and finally Canon (scanner).

    I just love the way it runs the whole Office 2003 suite as fast as running
    Notepad!!

    Hope you find an answer to your problem.

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 13, 2005
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  4. i have tried raid off !!!! and one dvdrom and one hard drive both master
    primary and secondary same problem. does the hard drive need to be
    partitioned in a certain way or can it be raw. but then again dont thnk that
    woud cause the problem surley i would be able to format from the start up
    proces
     
    stuartmethven, Aug 13, 2005
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  5. I'm using a Gigabyte K8 Triton GA-K8VM800M motherboard with an Athlon
    3300+ 2.4 Ghz and 1 Gig of RAM, and 1 160GB IDE hard drive.

    I had no problems installing Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.
    However, When I installed Windows Server 2003 Standard x64 Edition, I
    had to go into the BIOS and set it at Optimized Settings and disabled
    the onboard video, sound, ATA controller, floppy, parallel, midi, and
    all of the other things that I curretnly don't need. I'm using a USB
    Keyboard and mouse so I left them enabled.

    I replaced the onboard video with an ATI Radeon 9600 AGP card, and I
    replaced the onboard sound with a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Live 2
    sound card. Even if I set the BIOS to use the Fail Safe and disabled all
    of the above the System froze at the Windows Startup. So After switching
    back to the Optimized settings with the above stuff disabled its been
    running like a charm.

    Take a look at your BIOS, set it at the Optimized settings and disable
    everythig that your system doesn't use and see how far you get.

    Cheers,

    Steve Thompson | http://www.online64.net
    The Online 64 .NET Team
    Help get the forums going.
     
    Steve Thompson, Aug 13, 2005
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  6. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    No, the hard drive can be completely raw out of the box since the setup
    routine (like 32bit XP) will provide the tools to partition and format the
    drive anyway and this was how I installed my (full release bought copy - not
    a beta) XP x64.

    I'm not sure from your initial post just EXACTLY where it blue screens? (you
    said... "blue screen part of install at beginning")

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 13, 2005
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  7. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    That's a VERY good point Steve! I was forgetting that after years of
    building and installing new systems, I have forced myself into the habit of
    ALWAYS doing what you said below as a matter of course before even
    attempting an install. I forgot to mention that in my posts.
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 13, 2005
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  8. I'm going to get you trained to spell my name right yet. ;)
     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Aug 13, 2005
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  9. onthe initial install screen before it goes to f8 to accept license. normal
    blue screen "not error blue screen "with loading drivers etc at bottom of
    screen then says starting windows thats the part it reboots at.
     
    stuartmethven, Aug 13, 2005
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  10. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    Ah right... Now I understand where its rebooting.

    Not good. It's been my past experience that that is usually caused by a
    memory protection violation happening in the background while it's loading
    the basic hardware drivers necessary to carry on the setup at that point...
    What is your video hardware? Is there any hardware installed that is
    replacing any onboard functionailty which you have disabled? (e.g. sound
    card etc etc)

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 13, 2005
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  11. ok tried optimized setings and disabled everything that i did not need and
    guess what . yea still re-boots , mind you a comment colin made was hardware
    i have a cheap pci-e card ati radeon x300se wonder if thats the problem or
    maybe oe of my mem modules right now dual channel 1gb , will try single
    channel one chip at a time and see .maybe ones a dud but doubt 2 are. colin
    regarding the memory protection would that not replicate in windows xp 32 bit
    as well. as i have said before it runs like a dream no problems at all its
    just 64 bit thats the problem

    cheers
     
    stuartmethven, Aug 13, 2005
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  12. stuartmethven

    John Barnes Guest

    Any chance you are using SATA II drives. Many problems still unsolved with
    Nvidia, SATA II and especially x64.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 13, 2005
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  13. As far as the memory is concerned with regard to XP32 and XP64, you
    really can't compare the two. Apples and Oranges here. First of all,
    Windows XP Professional x64 Editions is based on the same code base as
    Windows 2003 Server SP1 (32) bit. However, the way the x64 editions
    handle memory is different than that of their 32 bit brethren.

    If you have your BIOS set up properly and you believe that the problem
    might be either your video card or your memory, then I would start with
    the memory and then the video card. It sounds as if you're on the right
    track with yanking out one of your memory modules. I wish you the best
    of luck. Also, one more thing. This may be a non issue if you've had
    this machine running for a while but do you have proper air flow into
    your system with a good CPU fan? I've seen some pretty strange things
    happen when your processor is gasping for some cool clean air.

    Best,

    Steve Thompson | http://www.online64.net
    Online 64 .NET

    [snip]
     
    Steve Thompson, Aug 14, 2005
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  14. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    That's a good point John but may be a "red herring" since, in my case, I
    mistakenly (RTFM!) plugged my SATA drive in the first of my SATAII (NVidia
    sourced) sockets instead of the vanilla SATA ones on the Silicon Image
    chipset and x64 installed without a hitch but of course, your point about
    Stuart having SATAII could still be valid if he has...

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 14, 2005
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  15. thanks for the info steve. air flow is great ,using thermaltake alluminium
    tower ,prossesor temp sits around 29 when idol and only goes up to 36 when
    running at 100 % . will try mem modules today and get back with a report

     
    stuartmethven, Aug 14, 2005
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  16. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    Well, Steve has already answered the question in relation to memory but one
    more point has occured to me about memory. Did you purchase your dual
    channel DIMMs as a certified pair for dual channel use? If you did, I think
    I'm right in saying that you can't use one on its own if you still have Dual
    Channel enabled on the m/b. You would need to disable this first in the BIOS
    setup before trying each on its own? (and I'm not even 100% wether that
    would work... perhaps Steve could confirm)

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 14, 2005
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  17. stuartmethven

    John Barnes Guest

    I would try mem86 and test the memory as installed from a floppy or bootable
    CD
    http://www.mem86.com/

     
    John Barnes, Aug 14, 2005
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  18. stuartmethven

    Colin Nowell Guest

    If you don't mind me saying John, that's a pretty awful site since it's
    riddled with pop-ups and pop-unders.... (I never trust a site that does that
    personally)

    Colin
     
    Colin Nowell, Aug 14, 2005
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  19. stuartmethven

    John Barnes Guest

    I forgot to include ASUS in the problem. I USED to be able to boot my x86
    system on the SATA II drive before the last BIOS upgrade. Now it is totally
    a data drive.
    A8N-SLI Deluxe
    I have tried all the 'I got it to work, doing' suggestions listed here,
    unplugging all USB, installing 1/2 the drivers at F6, turning the computer
    upside down when a full moon falls on a Tuesday, but none have worked so far
    on MY computer, and as noted, I am not the only one that has had the
    problems.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 14, 2005
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  20. stuartmethven

    John Barnes Guest

    Sorry the direct site is http://www.memtest86.com/
    Fortunately AdMuncher catches all the pops and I didn't know they were
    there.
     
    John Barnes, Aug 14, 2005
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