Win 7 conversion

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Tom Brown, May 7, 2009.

  1. Tom Brown

    Tom Brown Guest

    I have been using WLM on XP SP3 for about a year and I am about to switch
    over
    to Windows 7. I wonder what would be the best way to migrate all my WLM
    flies to Win 7? Should I do an export and import or can I just copy all the
    files to the new disk?

    TIA,

    Tom
     
    Tom Brown, May 7, 2009
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    I would not. Windows 7 is still a Beta (RC Release)
     
    Peter Foldes, May 7, 2009
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    Chris Guest

    worked fine for me.
     
    Chris, May 7, 2009
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    Chris Guest

     
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    Chris Guest

    sorry about previous attachment. I was sending a url for 7 setup tricks.
     
    Chris, May 7, 2009
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    ...winston Guest

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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Chris.

    No need to go to all that trouble. Just include the URL to Ed Bott's
    article right in your message:
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=922&tag=nl.e539

    As Peter said, Win7 RC is still beta and Microsoft posts many dire warnings
    about running a beta - including this Release Candidate - as your sole or
    main operating system. Also, Microsoft warns that it is a time-limited
    release, so be sure that you are prepared to move back to your old Windows
    (or to a later version if it becomes available in time) before the time
    limit expires.

    Many of us beta testers are familiar with such risks and are used to dealing
    with them. So I've been running Win7 beta releases as my "daily driver"
    since the "pre-beta" back in October 2008 with few problems - and no
    insurmountable ones. But, then, I've been dual-booting for years and have
    several other WinXP and Vista installations available on my one computer in
    case I need to fall back to one of those. Most users don't have such
    protections. Do you have such fallback options and know how to use them?

    Unless you are prepared and willing to accept these risks, do as Peter - and
    Microsoft - recommend and wait for the final version of Windows 7. But this
    is proving to be a very stable release and I'm very happy with Win7 RC.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
     
    R. C. White, May 7, 2009
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    Tom Lake Guest

    I have my WLM files on a separate drive from Windows. After I did a clean
    install of Win 7 RC, I just changed the location of my messages to the other
    drive and, voila! All my emails and newsgroups were restored after restarting
    WLM. No exporting or conversion necessary.

    Tom Lake
     
    Tom Lake, May 7, 2009
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  9. Tom Brown

    Tom Brown Guest

    R.C.

    Thanks for the info.

    I realize this Win 7 discussion is off topic for the WLM newsgroup, but I
    don't know where else to have this discussion. Please advise if there is a
    more appropriate place to get this info.

    I am aware that Win 7 (Ver. 7100) is a Beta RC but I am just trying to get a
    little practice time and plan ahead to the time when I can move to a retail
    version. It looks like Win 7 going to be a great O/S!

    I currently have it installed on a spare disk that I can install in my
    laptop. But, on this Sony VAIO, it's a real PITA (18 tiny screws, about
    15-20 minutes) to change out the disk as opposed to my old Dell which could
    be swapped in seconds.

    That is what prompted my original questions. It would be MUCH better if I
    could set up a dual-boot situation so I could boot up in Win 7 if I wanted
    to play around with it and then reboot into Win XP if I wanted to do
    something serious/permanent. That would be much easier than swapping disks.
    Since you have been dual-booting for years, any suggestions on where I could
    get good info on setting that up on my machine (XP/Win7 dual-boot)?

    From reading Ed Bott's 7 Tips, it appears that if I can't use the Virtual XP
    Mode with my Intel T7200 processor, my installation of MS Office might not
    run on Win 7. Even if I have to purchase a new copy of Office, I hope that
    my data files (.doc, .mdb, .xls) could be accessed by either O/S in the
    dual-boot situation. I am familiar with differences such as .doc and .docx
    for the different versions of Office.

    Comments?

    Thanks again,

    Tom
     
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    Peter Foldes Guest

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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Tom.

    You're right, this is not the best newsgroup for Win7. Peter has given you
    a couple of good links. Microsoft has not yet set up NNTP newsgroups for
    Win7, but they have established those forums.

    This one is the mother lode for Win7, I suppose; just click "Get the Release
    Candidate" to read the page of dire warnings.:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
     
    R. C. White, May 7, 2009
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  12. Especially so since it has been announced that upgrading from
    Win7 RC to Win7 RTM will not be supported.
    That said, I am happily running both Windows Live Mail and
    Windows Mail on Win7 RC.
     
    Gary VanderMolen, May 7, 2009
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    Grump3 Guest

    I'm dual booting Xp & W7 RC from the one HD.
    I just created a 2nd partition from XP then booted from the W7 DVD &
    selecter 'Custom Install' to direct W7 to there.
    W7 then installed & set up a dual boot menu with XP.
    HTH,
    G.
     
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    Tom Brown Guest

    That's great. It's what I was hoping I could do.

    But, my other question still remains. Can I access the same WLM files (on a
    different hard disk partition) from both Win 7 and XP, depending on which
    system I boot into? That would be really handy while I get used to Win 7.

    Tom
     
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    Tom Brown Guest

    Peter,

    Thanks for the tip. I guess MS will establish a Win 7 Newsgroup after it is
    officially released.

    Tom
     
    Tom Brown, May 8, 2009
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  16. It's not advisable to share a Windows Live Mail message store
    between different Windows users. Mail server passwords are
    encrypted using a hash which depends on the user, so your
    passwords will get corrupted each time the user is switched.
     
    Gary VanderMolen, May 8, 2009
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    Tom Lake Guest

    I wouldn't do that. XP will mangle your message store. It seems that Win 7
    automagically does some conversion for you, transparently. You can go from
    older OS to newer but not vice-versa even with WLM as the mail handler in both.

    Tom Lake
     
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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Tom.

    That's a great idea - that probably won't work. :>(

    I shared OE's DBX folders/files for years, sharing the Store Folder between
    Win2K and WinXP (as I recall - it's been so long ago - was it Win9x and
    Win2K?). But when I tried to share between WinXP and Vista, it was
    disaster! I've even given up trying to share between Vista and Win7.

    Even trying to share between OE in WinXP Pro and WinXP X64 wouldn't work
    because of the different 32-bit/64-bit password hashes. For a while I ran a
    simple batch file that retained my different passwords for the two systems
    and inserted the proper ones into the Registry before I ran OE. (MVP Steve
    Cochran helped me a lot with this.) That was such a hassle that I gave up.
    (Never did get to use WinXP X64 much anyhow because there were no 64-bit
    hardware drivers in those ancient days.)

    After installing Win7 x64 RC last week, I first pointed the new WLM
    installation to the Store Folder on the earlier (build 7000) partition.
    This worked fine, but I no longer booted into the earlier Win7 beta. So,
    after a day or two, I simply used Windows Explorer to Copy the entire Store
    Folder to my Drive H: (the "neutral" volume where I've been storing
    email/news data for several years), then edited the Registry to point to
    that new location before starting WLM again. This worked perfectly, but
    there are several points where things could go wrong, so if you do it, be
    careful!

    I don't think I'd try to share a single Store Folder between Win7 and WinXP.
    But "cloning" the Registry tree between two Win7 installations should work -
    but I haven't tried it yet.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
     
    R. C. White, May 8, 2009
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    Tom Brown Guest

    Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I think I have a plan that will work
    and it does not involve sharing the data files between two O/S's

    I'll just do a dual boot (without having to swap disks) to get experience on
    Win 7 until the retail copy comes out and then I'll switch and commit to it.
    At that time, I will convert all my data files and make the painful switch.

    Thanks again,

    Tom
     
    Tom Brown, May 9, 2009
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    Tom Brown Guest

    Grump,

    Thanks. That sounds great. I'm concerned about how much space to allocate
    in the new partition.
    I know the OS doesn't need much space but I have read that 30GB is a good
    (more than enough)
    figure for Win 7.

    It looks like it's best if I don't try to share the data files.

    Thanks,

    Tom
     
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