Win Live Mail, Live Hotmail and Win Mail???

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Payman, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. Payman

    Payman Guest

    Hi.
    I've set up a brand new laptop and downloaded the Live suite. I then found
    Win Live Mail (desktop app.) which I found to be a suitable program for the
    intended user of the laptop.
    I then set the "default E-mail app" to Win LIve Mail in Vista. You could
    tell I was suprised to land at Win Live Hotmail when clicking on the Win Live
    Mail icon just under Start.

    Looking under Start/Applications I found Win Mail, which I found less
    attracting. I yet again found Win Live Mail but yet again I ended up at Win
    Live Hotmail (despite the link name being Win Live Mail).
    Where was the Win Live Mail appl. I just configured with an e-mail account?

    Eventually I found the correct link and unchecked the "default E-mail app"
    in Vista and dragged the correct link into the start menu instead.

    WHY IS MICROSOFT NAMING TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THE SAME?

    It is really annoying even for me being very experienced in Windows.

    Vista is Home Premium I think.
     
    Payman, Jan 5, 2008
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  2. Payman

    Ildhund Guest

    I can't see that you've had an answer to this. I don't use Vista, so I can't
    help with that. But I would ask whether the OS is patched up to date? There
    was a period when Hotmail was called Windows Live Mail, and then when this
    app changed its name to Windows Live Mail, we ended up in a bizarre
    situation when program defaults (certainly in IE7) listed these two with
    identical names. I think this was subsequently put right by an update, but
    perhaps someone could confirm.

    If you right-click on a shortcut and select Properties, you can see what the
    shortcut is referring to.
     
    Ildhund, Jan 7, 2008
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  3. Payman

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Payman.
    Welcome to the crowd! We all are confused and mystified by Microsoft's
    frequently-confusing naming practices. This is just another example.

    As you saw, every copy of Vista includes Windows Mail. Many of us users
    prefer Windows Live Mail, which was in beta, first as Windows Live Mail
    Desktop until last May, when there was a renaming frenzy. The "desktop"
    part of the name was dropped and this app has been known as Windows Live
    Mail through the last few beta builds and in the final version (build
    12.0.1606) released in November.

    To add to the confusion, there is also Windows Live Hotmail, which I know
    nothing about because I've never used Hotmail - and maybe others. These
    were also part of the renaming frenzy, but I haven't tried to track those
    other changes. And, in spite of our continual requests, the WLM Team tells
    us that it is not possible to drop the word "desktop" from the name of this
    newsgroup! Amazing! So the confusion continues. :>(

    And a final note: While OE won't run in Vista, and WM won't run in anything
    but Vista, WLM will happily run in Vista and in WinXP and maybe other
    Windows versions, too. WLM will create its own separate Message Store, so
    that it can run side-by-side with either OE or WM, which its installation
    does not delete, even though it removes the shortcut and icon for the older
    program.

    That makes it very confusing sometimes for us who try to help out here,
    because users who post questions often don't mention which OS they are
    using, so we often offer advice that is not appropriate for their system.
    Or a "lurker" reads our answer to a Vista poster's question and finds that
    it doesn’t work on his WinXP system. So I'm glad that you told us your
    system is Vista.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
     
    R. C. White, Jan 8, 2008
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  4. Payman

    ...winston Guest

    Noel,
    I've been using Vista for quite some time since RC1, now RTM(Ultimate) with
    WLM.
    I have yet to see Windows Live Hotmail as a option on my start menu or quick
    launch during the WLM beta through final release.

    I do recall(in a pre 1606 version of WLM) editing the (Default) value in
    registry key
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Hotmail
    to ensure that the Hotmail name appeared properly in Vista's Default
    programs.

    That item(see attached) is no longer present on this same Vista unit . I
    don't recall if it disappeared after an update or due to a complete removal
    (add-remove, folders etc) and a clean install of WLM1606.

    ...winston
    ms-mvp windows live mail


    I can't see that you've had an answer to this. I don't use Vista, so I can't
    help with that. But I would ask whether the OS is patched up to date? There
    was a period when Hotmail was called Windows Live Mail, and then when this
    app changed its name to Windows Live Mail, we ended up in a bizarre
    situation when program defaults (certainly in IE7) listed these two with
    identical names. I think this was subsequently put right by an update, but
    perhaps someone could confirm.

    If you right-click on a shortcut and select Properties, you can see what the
    shortcut is referring to.
     
    ...winston, Jan 11, 2008
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