Windows Defender/Security Center

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Chris, Jun 25, 2006.

  1. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
    telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have both
    running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
    recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
    that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know what i
    can do to make the security center to recognize the already running defender?
     
    Chris, Jun 25, 2006
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  2. Windows Defender is not an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware
    program.
    You will not have an anti-virus program unless you download one that works
    on Vista. Such programs have been discussed at length in this newsgroup.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 25, 2006
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  3. Additional note: The former name of Windows Defender was Microsoft
    AntispywareBeta.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 25, 2006
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  4. Chris

    Chris Guest

    My security center says "Spyware and other malware protection"......"Windows
    Defender is turned off." I have Defender running and turned on. It currently
    runs scheduled scans and I have had no other problems with it. I am just
    trying to figure out why the security center is not recognizing that it is
    running.

    Any ideas?
     
    Chris, Jun 25, 2006
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  5. Because you may not have an anti-virus program installed.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 25, 2006
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  6. Chris

    Charlie Guest

    I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security Center.
    It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn it
    on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
    Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?
     
    Charlie, Jun 25, 2006
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    jonah Guest

    I had issues with the Security Centre, mainly its very annoying and
    unecessary for experienced users to have this service running and
    whining in the system tray. I can see the point for non savvy users
    but I hate the thing.

    Used this fix to remove it altogether

    from http://www.chris123nt.com/guides/5365/

    The tweaks there work for 5484 also.
    QUOTE

    Get Rid of The Nagging Windows Security Center Icon

    The Windows Security Center has been one of the biggest annoyances
    since the inception of the idea with Windows XP Service Pack 2. Now
    with Windows Vistaâ„¢ it is new, improved, and even more annoying than
    ever before! Untill now, you could not get rid of the icon from your
    tray.

    Here's how to nuke Security Center off your system. This has been
    tested and there are no adverse effects from doing this.

    1. Go to Start --> Run and type "cmd" without the quotes.
    2. Type "cd\" followed by "cd windows\system32".
    3. Now run the following commands:
    * takeown /f wscapi.dll
    * takeown /f wscsvc.dll
    * takeown /f wscui.cpl
    4. Now you have ownership of the files. Go into the system32
    directory in explorer and right click each file, go to the security
    tab and add an entry for everyone and give them full access
    permissions.
    5. Disable the Security Center Service via services.msc if you have
    not already done so.
    6. In the system32 folder rename the three mentioned dll's (change
    their file extension to .bak).
    7. To get rid of the Security Center service from services.msc drop
    to a command prompt and type the following:
    * "REG DELETE HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\WSCSVC
    /F", hit enter and reboot.
    8. Enjoy no more nagging or icon in your system tray!
    ENDQUOTE

    Jonah
     
    jonah, Jun 26, 2006
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  8. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Thanks Charlie, that's exactly what I am experiencing. Anyone have any ideas
     
    Chris, Jun 26, 2006
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    Rusty H Guest

    I had this issue after running VISTA for a few days. It started after a
    re-boot from a "blue screen", but I never did find the cause or a fix. I
    reloaded VISTA a week ago and, so far, the problem has not reappeared (both
    the initial installation and the reload were on a clean, formatted drive).
    Please send a feedback report to MS as it may help them debug this problem.
     
    Rusty H, Jun 26, 2006
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  10. Chris

    Rusty H Guest

    I had this issue after running VISTA for a few days. It started after a
    re-boot from a "blue screen", but I never did find the cause or a fix. I
    reloaded VISTA a week ago and, so far, the problem has not reappeared (both
    the initial installation and the reload were on a clean, formatted drive).
    Please send a feedback report to MS as it may help them debug this problem.
     
    Rusty H, Jun 26, 2006
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  11. Colin Barnhorst clearly like Microsoft staff/development engineers fail to
    understand their clients/users! I too have had Windows Defender Beta
    installed on my recent Dell dual core machine running Windows XP HE(i took
    off the pre-installed McAffee[have never liked approved of their
    products-prone to complications and never up to date, hard to remove from
    OS]) and have found that Windows Defender Beta does not incorporate an update
    button/tool/facility. Each developer knows that when a product is in its'
    Beta stage changes are constantly being made, refined and as a matter of
    course should automatically include an update facility-even after the final
    release of Defender, it will need, require this aspect and Chris is
    RIGHT/CORRECT, Microsoft could, quite easily and should include: -
    1- the ability to update Windows Defender;
    2-update Windows Security Center to recognise that Windows Defender Beta,
    is installed within the Windows operating system and the role it is playing
    re Spyware/thus virus prevention;
    3-Microsoft could quite easily incorporate these aspects within future
    Updates, to both Defender and WSC;
    4-this would provide peace of mind. SECURITY for users both, Business and
    Home;
    5-Project a better, more professional image for Microsoft.
     
    Jon888Dan_technical, Jul 30, 2006
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  12. Chris

    gaiarec Guest

     
    gaiarec, Sep 28, 2006
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  13. Chris

    gaiarec Guest

    I experience the same problem, perhaps it could help if I say that I
    uninstalled Pc Cillin 14 before this...
     
    gaiarec, Sep 28, 2006
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  14. Chris

    Paul Guest

    Is there any news on this? It's still doing this for me, too.
     
    Paul, Oct 3, 2006
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  15. Chris

    Mel_P Guest

    Hello - I have exactly the same thing - I instaled Office 2007 beta + refresh
    then tried same trhing with Visio - it failed and bluescreened - after that
    the security center seems nt to recognise Defender.

    Mel P
     
    Mel_P, Oct 4, 2006
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  16. Chris

    Mel_P Guest

    Exactly same for me - after a Vision beta 2007 install failed
     
    Mel_P, Oct 4, 2006
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