Windows Defender vs Live One Care

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Licmy, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. Licmy

    Licmy Guest

    Do I really need a secoundary security system? I already have Windows Defender.
     
    Licmy, Dec 4, 2007
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    T&V Seitz Guest

    I have been running ONLY Defender, Avast Antivirus (free home version) , and
    the Windows firewall for approximately 3 years. We spend hours a day on the
    internet and have an internally protected wireless network set up.

    To date we have had no virus or other intrusions that the above
    configuration has not caught!
     
    T&V Seitz, Dec 4, 2007
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    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    Windows Defender is NOT an anti-virus program (it is an anti-spyware program).
    You also have Windows Firewall, but you DO need an anti-virus program (Avast and
    AVG are free anti-virus programs).


    I Bleed Blue and Gold
    GO BEARS!
     
    Cal Bear '66, Dec 4, 2007
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  4. Is that all you have?

    You need three kinds of software for protection:

    1. An anti-virus program

    2. Two or more anti-spyware programs

    3. A firewall program.

    Windows Defender is an anti-spyware program. You still need software
    of the other two types, and you should also run at least one other
    anti-spyware program. A single one is not good enough.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Dec 4, 2007
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  5. As others have said, you need more. Let me chime in with my recent
    experience in this area.

    I purchased a Toshiba laptop with McAfee Internet Security Suite pre-loaded.
    It appeared to operate well,
    so I upgraded to a 1-year license. Big mistake. Shortly after I upgraded
    (doncha know), Vista HP started
    blue-screening at startup. Recently, Vista's post-debacle self-appraisal
    identified McAfee's realtime Virus
    Scanner as the culprit. There is no known fix for this from McAfee. When I
    went to McAfee's site to obtain
    support, the site attempted to install some 3rd-party chat client which made
    a lot of noise and did NOTHING.
    No client, no changes, no nothing. I know what to expect; I have used
    Symantec's chat client repeatedly to good
    effect (although I wouldn't recommend Ghost 12.0 to my worst enemy).

    Today, I yanked McAfee. I am currently appraising the Bitdefender 2008
    Internet Security Suite 30-day free trial. So far I've noticed this: Vista
    boots A LOT FASTER with BitDefender than with McAfee and BitDefender's
    post-virus-scan log is a lot more detailed.

    Black humor sidebar: I can just imagine McAfee tripping Vista into a blue
    screen as it stands in the way trying to scan various Vista modules as
    they're being loaded.

    What a joke. Do the research. McAfee's FORMER clients are about two bits
    short of a class-action lawsuit.
     
    Tooloose LaBlech, Dec 4, 2007
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    Sparks Guest

    I've used McAfee with Vista from day one. I have never had any problem what
    so ever, I think you are experiencing a hardware configuration issue. After
    all, any giving software program can't be expected to work 100% with all the
    possible computer configurations that are out there in the world, you know
    what I mean.


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    Sparks, Dec 5, 2007
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    Dave Harris Guest

    What other spyware program do you recommend?

     
    Dave Harris, Dec 7, 2007
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  8. You don't need any security *system*. What you need is a security
    *concept*.
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 7, 2007
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  9. What utter nonsense.
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 7, 2007
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  10. I use

    Spybot Search and Destroy
    Adaware
    Spyware Blaster
    Windows Defender
    Super Antispyware
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Dec 7, 2007
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  11. Licmy

    Dave Harris Guest

    Straight Talk: Can you explain or provide us with a "security concept to
    use within the Vista OS?"
     
    Dave Harris, Dec 8, 2007
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  12. Well, first of all, since later versions of Windows (since XP SP2) are
    secure out-of-the-box with respect to vulnerabilities that are
    exploitable from the outside, problems to a very high degree depend on
    yourself and what you do.

    Security is not a product you install. It's a constant process of
    understanding, assessing and mitigating risk.

    By having a modern PC you have suddenly become the administrator of a
    machine power and system functionality that for just 2 decades ago
    would serve entire companies - and there were experts there taking
    care of configuration, security and operations - controlled by well
    thought out procedures. For example, no software would be allowed to
    be installed without thorough investigations and assessment.

    Now, it has become the assumption that such computer power is more is
    or less plug-and-play and can be safely left to even small kids.
    That's a bit amusing - but also a very serious challenge.

    You need to stop relying on so called "security software" to keep you
    safe and instead realize that you have to educate yourself about what
    consequences your acts might have in terms of security.

    You need to adjust your mind set - not so much your system. Modern
    malware is extremely effective and dangerous - and security software
    providers have to constantly struggle hard just to keep up - and still
    they are highly ineffective.

    The best thing you can do technically is to use software that is not
    inherently broken - and make sure to keep this software patched - as
    well as you keep your windows OS patched.

    For more inspiration on developing your own security concept, feel
    free to visit my web site:
    http://home20.inet.tele.dk/b_nice/
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 9, 2007
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  13. And you verified that exactly how?
     
    Straight Talk, Dec 9, 2007
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