windows defender

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Debbie, Mar 12, 2007.

  1. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    Please tell me how to ALLOW windows defender to open? I always have a message
    in the "notification space" that a program was blocked and it is windows
    defender on boot up. It says it is not turned "on" but when i open it is set

    There are no problems - spyware, adware, etc and after I close the defender
    window, the "blocked" icon goes away.

    But this happens EVERY time I turn on the computer.

    Debbie, Mar 12, 2007
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  2. Debbie

    Charlie Guest

    Did you already have a copy of Defender installed perhaps before you did
    your Vista upgrade?
    Those symptoms sound like it.

    Charlie, Mar 12, 2007
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  3. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    No, Windows vista was preinstalled on my new Toshiba laptop (A135-S44887)
    purchased three weeks ago.

    But thanks for writing.
    Debbie, Mar 12, 2007
  4. Debbie

    Guest Guest

    I have the same Toshiba and the same problem with Defender. I finally
    disabled Defender from running in real time and installed AVG's
    Anti-Spyware, no fuss, no muss.
    Defender has some interesting features, but nothing that can't be handled by
    "msconfig", "task manager" and a firewall that notifies you of outgoing
    traffic. BTW MS, did you catch that
    last part about notification of outgoing traffic?
    Guest, Mar 14, 2007
  5. Ronnie Vernon MVP, Mar 14, 2007
  6. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    Hi Nospam

    I am not even able to "enable" defender. I am told it is not on and not
    protecting. Then I open the program, and all is well. it is set, and working.
    The next day, i have the same problem. I also have the defender to scan at
    11pm every day. it is not on, so it does not scan!
    Debbie, Mar 14, 2007
  7. Debbie

    Guest Guest

    Yes, windows firewall does monitor outbound traffic, but, unless I'm
    mistaken there is no notification when an app wants to access the internet
    as in, for example, ZoneAlarm.

    Enable real time protection in Windows Defender and it should become a
    startup program. Go to control panel/windows defender/options and check
    real time protection.
    Guest, Mar 14, 2007
  8. Debbie

    Debbie Guest

    Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set. it
    won't stay OPEN, as in running all the time. the real time check box is
    checked too. I need to allow it to open through the UAC i think but i don't
    know how.

    Thank you.
    Debbie, Mar 15, 2007
  9. Debbie

    Jesper Guest

    Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set.
    Debbie, do you have any other security programs installed? You mentioned
    that Vista was preinstalled on your laptop. Is it possible that some other
    security suite was also installed that disables Defender and prevents it from

    Several of the major anti-malware companies do their best to prevent any
    Microsoft security software from running (and discredit what they can't
    stop). If people realize they do not need expensive third-party security
    suites it obviously cuts into their bottom lines. That is why many people on
    this newsgroup recommend AVG anti-virus, which does not interfere with the
    built-in security in Windows.
    Jesper, Apr 8, 2007
  10. Debbie

    dkintheuk Guest

    Right this is going round in circles - I am in the same boat as Debbie.

    Defender claims to be off.

    I only have AVG installed in addition to the basic Vista defender.

    It worked fine till about 3 weeks ago then Defender just started giving

    I am using Vista Ultimate and have not yet configured anything else.

    What do I need to do to fix it so that Defender stays ON?

    Whay is everyone having separate discussions around this and no-one
    answering the question?

    Is it really something that has stumped Microsoft or are people keeping
    their mouths shut to wind everyone else up?

    Help me please for crying out loud ....
    dkintheuk, Apr 28, 2007
  11. Debbie

    Jesper Guest

    People aren't answering because they don't know they answer. I don't either.

    Run this command from an elevated command prompt please:
    sc qc windefend

    It should say "START_TYPE : 2 AUTO_START". If it doesn't copy the output and
    paste it into a response. Then run these commands:
    sc config windefend start=auto
    sc start windefend

    Nobody knows why it is getting turned off. There is protection in place
    against turning it off, so something is clearly causing this problem, but as
    we don't know what you have installed, we can't really tell.
    Jesper, Apr 29, 2007
  12. Debbie

    dkintheuk Guest


    Thanks so much for your clear reply.

    Ran the commands as described and got that the Start Type is
    I got an Access Denied message for the second command.
    I finally got a StartService FAILED 1056 - Already running message.

    So I can see that it isn't really off according to Windows but it is
    not active according to some other part of the OS...

    Anything else I can do to check?


    dkintheuk, Apr 29, 2007
  13. Debbie

    Jesper Guest

    If the SC command says it is running it is. It must be Security Center that
    has somehow lost track of Defender. Without having the system in front of me
    though I really can't tell why that would be.

    You may want to call Microsoft's security support and see if they can help
    you figure out what is going on. It is free and you can find the number at
    Jesper, Apr 29, 2007
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