Windows Disk Defrag not workig

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by tdawg, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. tdawg

    tdawg Guest

    So, im trying to once again run disk defrag. It hasnt worked in a couple
    weeks. What happens is i start it up, it runs the "anailzing disk" part and i
    can see my HD run for a min or so. But then it stops and thats it, i left my
    computer alone for like 6hrs, and when i came back, it still said "anailzing
    disk".

    ANyone got any help on this. When i goto task mgr, i see it in there, but i
    cant end the process, i have to reboot.

    So what happened, why does it get stuck at the "anailzing disk" part and not
    go any futher

    thanks
     
    tdawg, Jan 21, 2007
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  2. Hi, tdawg.

    Two questions:

    1. How big and how full is the volume being defragged? (For a 300 GB
    volume with millions of files, it might take longer than 6 hours.)

    2. Is this the boot volume (typically Drive C:)? Defragging the working
    volume (and the boot volume, where the \Windows folder resides, is always
    working) has always taken longer because its files are constantly being
    updated during the defrag process. In the olden days, we could not defrag
    the boot volume at all because the process was continually restarting.
    :>( To defrag that volume, we had to boot from a floppy or dual-boot into a
    different Windows installation.

    These may not be the factors in your situation, but if we know these
    answers, we may be able to eliminate a couple of suspects.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Mail 7.0 in Vista Ultimate x64)
     
    R. C. White, MVP, Jan 21, 2007
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  3. tdawg

    tdawg Guest

    Hi, thanks for responding

    no, the HD is only a 40gig drive and it is the main drive. I have sept
    drives for eveyrthing else. I only use this drive for the windows and windows
    programs.

    Disk Defrag does start up, and it goes to analyzing disk. But thats it, it
    doesnt do anything more after that. As stated, i left computer alone for
    6hrs, and when i came back, the disk defrag STILL says analyzing disk
     
    tdawg, Jan 21, 2007
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  4. From the GUI, defrag will defrag _all_ of your volumes, not just C:. It
    will also analyze _all_ volumes.
    Since you say you get "analyzing disk" I am assuming you are using the UI.
    I think that the UI is analyzing all of your disks, and quite possibly one
    of the larger ones (not the 40gb) is causing the delay.

    It is likely that the culprit would be the biggest volume with the most
    data. Try a defrag <vol>: /a /v from the command line (administrative) for
    an analysis of your "most likely" volume and see what you get.

    OR

    If you only want to defrag the sysvol (C?), then defrag sysvol: /v from the
    command line (administrative).

    Thanks
    -Victoria
     
    Victoria House [MSFT], Jan 22, 2007
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  5. Currently the GUI you get from my computer->rt click c:->tools->defrag is
    the same "all volumes" UI.
    We've had lots of feedback on this before. Yours has been noted.
     
    Victoria House [MSFT], Jan 22, 2007
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  6. tdawg

    tdawg Guest

    Ya, thanks. It did defrag my C drive like u said.... i think. WHen it
    started, it said 2% fragmented. After it was done, it said 5%, lol. But
    atleast i know how ot do it now

    thanks
     
    tdawg, Jan 23, 2007
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  7. Bug was recently filed for that one. It's fixed for Server/SP1.
    There's a lot of things that can frag you besides defrag though, so maybe it
    was one of them. :)

    Glad it's working for you.. or at least running. If you want to schedule C:
    defrags, you can use task scheduler (We have tasks there that are used for
    our ScheduledDefrag you could use as a model).
     
    Victoria House [MSFT], Jan 23, 2007
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  8. tdawg

    mayor Guest

    The Vista Defrag is another MS technological improvement don't you know, or
    so Victoria said in an earlier post.

    --
    Leo

    When I was young and adventurous, I wanted to join a violent,
    armed group with no regard for the law, but the IRS wasn't hiring.
     
    mayor, Jan 23, 2007
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  9. Victoria

    In Vista is it still advisable to run Disk CleanUp ( or Vista
    equivalent ) before running Disk Defragmenter?


    --

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    Gerry

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    Enquire, plan and execute.
    Stourport, England
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    Gerry Cornell, Jan 26, 2007
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  10. tdawg

    ozziaj Guest

    Simple really: dump the inbuilt defrag engine (which is very “basic†anyway,
    to put it politely) and download ‘PerfectDisk 8’, a 180 day trial version
    from Raxco that works great with Vista RTM!

    Or wait for Executive Software to have their Vista compatible ‘Diskeeper’
    ready in a few weeks – the best defragmentation engine around.
     
    ozziaj, Jan 28, 2007
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  11. tdawg

    Roy Coorne Guest

    Or use the free http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/


    Roy
     
    Roy Coorne, Jan 28, 2007
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  12. tdawg

    MICHAEL Guest

    Diskeeper 2007 for Vista is ready now.
    However, there is no free trial download at
    this moment.

    http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/solutions.asp
    Diskeeper Corporation has announced Microsoft Windows Vistaâ„¢ platform support for the Diskeeper
    2007 product line. It is a free update for licensed Diskeeper 2007 customers, as well as
    customers with current maintenance contracts.
     
    MICHAEL, Jan 28, 2007
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  13. tdawg

    ozziaj Guest

    Did she call THAT an “improvement�? Wow, must have had a bad hair day ....
     
    ozziaj, Jan 29, 2007
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  14. tdawg

    mayor Guest

    To me Victoria seemed upset that us mere users did not understand the
    technological benefits of the 'new and improved' MS Defrag.

    --
    Leo

    When I was young and adventurous, I wanted to join a violent,
    armed group with no regard for the law, but the IRS wasn't hiring.
     
    mayor, Jan 29, 2007
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  15. The only place I can immediately find CleanUp and Defrag in one article is
    in this type of article:
    http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/getstarted/speed.mspx

    For many, temporary internet files and temporary program files will tend to
    be more fragmented and take up space on the beginning of the disk and are
    deleted periodically.
    If defrag does its thing and then these files are deleted, there is a
    somewhat greater chance that the next files to be written to disk will be
    written fragmented. Disk CleanUp won't hurt anything, and since defrag
    takes care of itself with scheduling you should be all right.

    "is it still advisable"?
    I don't know.
    I think that running Disk CleanUp occasionally is a good idea. Running Disk
    Defragmenter occasionally is also a good idea.
    If I were running both in the same short time period, I'd run Disk CleanUp
    first for a small degree fragmentation prevention.

    -Victoria
     
    Victoria House [MSFT], Jan 30, 2007
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