"Windows Mail can compact the message store"

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Mail' started by Carol in GA, Feb 18, 2007.

  1. Carol in GA

    Carol in GA Guest

    I've had Vista installed for almost a month now and this evening I keep
    getting a message when I close Windows Mail that says:

    "Windows Mail can compact the message store. This can take a few minutes."
    and asks "OK or Cancel"

    What is this?
     
    Carol in GA, Feb 18, 2007
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  2. When you delete messages the space isn't necessarily freed up. By compacting
    the store occasionally, every 100 shutdowns by default, it keeps the store
    smaller than it otherwise would be. This is a good thing BTW.

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    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
     
    Richard Urban, Feb 18, 2007
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  3. Actually, WinMail does not keep the message itself in the database. It does
    store all sorts of information about the message there, though, and that
    space is not recovered until the database is compacted. Steve Cochran has
    written a nice little free program dealing with the database, WMUtil:
    http://www.oehelp.com/WMUtil/Default.aspx
     
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, Feb 18, 2007
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  4. Carol in GA

    Justin Guest

    What are the advantages of that program?

    You can compact the DB yourself. To repair the DB, seems to me you are
    better off just deleting it and letting it rebuild. Even with 7,000+ emails
    it didn't take very long.

    Clean blank files?

    Thanks
     
    Justin, Mar 16, 2007
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  5. I don't see how to compact the database yourself, and deleting it must be
    done in both locations and then the rebuilding causes me problems with
    duplicate messages.
     
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, Mar 21, 2007
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  6. Carol in GA

    Justin Guest

    Dups - That's odd. No problems here.

    I believe by default WM will compact every 100 runs. Change it to 1 and
    exit. Then put it back.
     
    Justin, Mar 23, 2007
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  7. Carol in GA

    Ellen Guest

    What is the best way to store important e-mail messages before they get
    compacted?
     
    Ellen, Mar 28, 2007
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  8. In WinMail, unlike OE, the messages don't get compacted, only the database
    does. So they won't be affected.

    See also www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx#wm

    steve
     
    Steve Cochran, Mar 28, 2007
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  9. Carol in GA

    TK Guest

    So what I get from this is that it is a good thing to compact the message
    store? I have just been saying no, because I wasn't sure what it was.
    Thanks.
     
    TK, Mar 29, 2007
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  10. Carol in GA

    Justin Guest

    Only if you delete a lot of email. For the average user, doing this every
    other month can help keep your WM app running at full speed.
     
    Justin, Mar 29, 2007
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  11. Yes. It removes old entries in the database and cleans it up.

    steve
     
    Steve Cochran, Mar 29, 2007
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  12. Carol in GA

    sirsally Guest

     
    sirsally, Apr 30, 2007
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  13. Carol in GA

    mikeyhsd Guest

    when you delete mail it leaves holes in the data base.
    compacting just gets rid of the holes and makes WM run more smoothly.
    just do not disturb the compacting till it gets done.
    personally I find that 100 closing is too long to wait, and have mine set to compact at 5 closings.



     
    mikeyhsd, Apr 30, 2007
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  14. Carol in GA

    Captain Dan Guest

    I'm trying to post this as a new question ... but that button is not
    responding to enable me to do so ... what a pain!! Anyway ... is there any
    way this notification can be turned off? I keep getting it and it's very
    annoying...
     
    Captain Dan, May 27, 2007
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  15. If you want the message store to be compacted occasionally (highly
    desirable) you will need to see this message to allow you to choose to do
    so.

    You can change the frequency of the compacts. On a fresh install of Vista -
    not an upgrade from Windows XP - the default is once for every 100 times you
    exit Windows Mail. I would NOT suggest you go any higher that this setting.
    I have it set to compact every 25 exits.

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    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
     
    Richard Urban, May 27, 2007
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  16. Carol in GA

    Jim Parker Guest

     
    Jim Parker, May 31, 2007
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  17. Carol in GA

    Jim Parker Guest

    where do they go?

    I have not been able to locate e mails like I could with OUTLOOK

    ??THANKS
    JIM
     
    Jim Parker, May 31, 2007
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  18. Carol in GA

    H.Craven Guest

    I agree very much
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    Chaz


     
    H.Craven, Aug 9, 2007
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  19. Carol in GA

    U2ooner Guest

    My question is the same as Carol in GA. How do you get rid of the message?
     
    U2ooner, Aug 17, 2007
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  20. Let it do its thing. The message store needs to be compacted periodically.

    Gary VanderMolen
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Aug 17, 2007
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