Windows Mail - no support for http - e.g. hotmail? Why did they get rid of Outlook Express

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by boe, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. boe

    boe Guest

    Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it if
    they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave outlook out
    for free that would be one thing but here they left their own users out
    unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web mail) that I'm
    missing.
     
    boe, Feb 5, 2007
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  2. boe

    DaShard Guest

    Nope. you're missing nothing.

    You can have the http mail in windows mail if you are an office live member
    or, Outlook supports Office Live accounts also.

    But there's no more free hotmail AND free http mail in Outlook or windows
    mail.

    Sign up for an office live account and you can have your cake and eat it
    too! :)
     
    DaShard, Feb 5, 2007
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  3. I ran the free bee in Vista RC2 with no problems on hotmail. Have as yet
    gotten the time to get the upgrade installed on my testing box.

    /\/\iller
     
    Warren Miller, Feb 5, 2007
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  4. No. You cannot access Hotmail with Windows Mail, whether your have a paid
    account or not.

    Yes there is. If you have an old legacy account, over x years old, you can
    still use Outlook (or Thunderbird) to access your Hotmail. I have two such
    accounts.
    Rubbish.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Feb 5, 2007
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  5. There is no support for Hotmail in Windows Mail, and I can't understand it
    either. I believe that Thunderbird can access Hotmail (you might need an
    addon). There is also 'Windows Live Mail Desktop', which is another program
    you can download. This can run on Vista or XP, RSS support, an awful
    skinned interface and adverts, but it supports Hotmail.

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Feb 5, 2007
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  6. boe

    jim Guest

    "awful" for that mostrocity is an understatment!!!

    its certainly designed by the same dorks that designed the vista interface
     
    jim, Feb 5, 2007
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  7. boe

    Damiendemon Guest

    Does anyone have a clue why windows have done this?
    and is there a proper solution where you can have something very
    similar to Outlook? where you can download and send emails on and off
    line?

    I can't understand what Microsoft were thinking. It is pathetic and
    stupidly annoying! I thought upgrading meant taking a step forward not a
    step backward!
    I think I might just go back to windows xp.
     
    Damiendemon, May 2, 2007
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  8. Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, May 2, 2007
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  9. boe

    LoneStar Guest

    Frank,
    I use (Vista) Windows Mail and like it -- except for the Hotmail thing.
    Question: Can I install WLMD and still use Windows Mail, or will WLMD nuke
    WM? I'd like to use both, I guess. Comments?
    Note: as the other person wrote, there is no logical reason that Microsoft
    disallowed HTTP mail on Windows Mail, especially now that they're allowing
    it for WLMD. What am I missing??
    Regards,
    EW
     
    LoneStar, May 2, 2007
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  10. boe

    MICHAEL Guest

    * LoneStar:
    Adware.


    -Michael
     
    MICHAEL, May 2, 2007
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    Feliks Dzerzhinsky, May 3, 2007
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  12. Yes, you can run both. My copy of WLMD is on Vista and I mainly use WinMail
    on that machine.

    What you are missing is all the wonderful advertisements.
     
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, May 3, 2007
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  13. boe

    xfile Guest

    If you are a MSN or Hotmail Plus paying customer, you won't see ads and only
    free accounts will see it - which is a fair game, I think.

    But to not support HTTP and force customers including subscribers to use
    WLMD for HTTP is not a good move.

    My solution - cancel MSN premium subscription. I can make my life easier
    without following their rules :)
     
    xfile, May 3, 2007
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  14. boe

    Joe Guidera Guest

    Depending on whether you used hotmail with POP access or not you can work
    around it. If you were HTML only, then you can't. If you have POP access
    to hotmail put in a bogus address during the setup wizard, complete the
    wizard and then go into the account and change the settings.

    Or, as others have suggested, live mail desktop works fine.

    Joe
     
    Joe Guidera, May 4, 2007
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