Windows Security and Newsgroups

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Coogee, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. And you'd be wrong. Access is typically controlled by restricting the
    subnet from which access can be gained to those subnets controlled by the
    ISP in question. While there are some ISPs that use PPOE most are simply
    direct connect with no user name or password required.
     
    Paul Adare - MVP, Sep 23, 2008
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  2. ??

    We use MODEMS, not routers.

    In the case of cable broadband, the node is activated for access or it
    isn't. As for DSL... same thing, but it's the phone connection at the
    switching station's end.

    NO log-in credentials required.

    Routers are used only when one wants to share a connection with
    multiple computers. Still, no log-in is required by the computer
    connected to the modem.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Sep 23, 2008
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  3. RCN - a struggling ISP/phone/cable provider - while not requiring
    log-in credentials - does require that the modem be "registered" with
    them. One either rents the modem from them - or buys their own - and
    the machine ID is then allowed to connect.

    Routers can be used at will behind the modem.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Sep 23, 2008
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  4. Coogee

    Gordon Guest

    <sigh> - the setup for the MODEM (or whatever you call it) will have in it a
    Username and Password - no you don't need to type those in every time you
    access the internet but I can assure you they are there....The account you
    have with your ISP WILL have a Username and Password associated with it...
     
    Gordon, Sep 23, 2008
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  5. Coogee

    Gordon Guest


    as I said - way to go USA!
     
    Gordon, Sep 23, 2008
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  6. <sigh> - No they don't. The MAC address is registered with the provider
    which is what allows one to get an IP address, there is no user name and
    password assigned. You seem to think you know a lot about this for someone
    who isn't even on this continent.
     
    Paul Adare - MVP, Sep 23, 2008
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  7. <bigger sigh>

    You're full of it Gordon.

    I purchase my own modems. Are you saying that somehow my ISP
    magically inserts the Username and Password?

    You need some sleep.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Sep 23, 2008
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  8. Please: we're "the Colonies" <harrumph!>

    How does your explanation reconcile purchasing one's own modem (which
    I did) and it works right out of the box?

    The RCN cable company I mentioned earlier uses the MAC address method.
    If one buys their own modem, all they have to do is call the support
    desk and give them the MAC.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Sep 23, 2008
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  9. I hope "Gordon" isn't the same "Gordon" running the web-hosting
    service.
     
    Paul Montgomery, Sep 23, 2008
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  10. <double sigh> You are both right and both wrong.

    Paul - yeah, depending on your service, you put a username and password into
    the MODEM. My DSL modem/router certainly does have a place to put my
    username and password and if I don't put them in there it won't connect.

    Gordon - yeah, that's true for DSL ... but for CABLE modems, there is no
    place to put a username and password, the MAC address controls whether or
    not you can access the Internet.

    So both of you may wish to consider that your view depends entirely on the
    direction one is looking in. ;-)
     
    Richard G. Harper, Sep 23, 2008
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  11. You might to actually read the post of mine where I mentioned PPOE there
    sport.
     
    Paul Adare - MVP, Sep 24, 2008
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  12. Coogee

    Coogee Guest

    Thanks for all the activity to my question, but I still haven't got answer I
    can use. Lots of noise on whether you need to sign on or not. I DO! Anyway
    this must be a problem with Vista that hasn't been fixed yet - hard for me
    to believe. Now I have the same problem on my MAIL server, which I didn't
    have before. So now I can't get mail or newsgroups. Such agita.
     
    Coogee, Sep 24, 2008
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  13. Coogee

    JohnJ Guest

    Maybe its really problem with the ISP. Comcast requires a login and
    password (until they remove Giganews from their services next month). But
    sometimes the ISP can have issues, so I'd call the ISP and complain and see
    where that goes.

    John
     
    JohnJ, Sep 24, 2008
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  14. Coogee

    Coogee Guest

    I have the same accounts set up on my desktop and they work OK. So that's
    not the problem. Thanks for replying, though.
     
    Coogee, Sep 24, 2008
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  15. Have tou tried creating a new account (Standard User)
    and setting up the NNTP account in that user account?
    Maybe there's corruption in your admin user account data
    or code.
     
    FromTheRafters, Sep 24, 2008
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  16. It's a problem on Vista. You were given information about how to go to
    the account itself on WM, Outlook or whatever is being used and entering
    the credentials again typing over the existing credentials and doing
    send/recv of email or post/read on NNTP until the credentials hold. You
    giving the credentials when being prompted is not going to work, as they
    will not hold. It has to be done on the account iteslf off of Tools menu
    and select the account and set it there.

    And besides, they are going to be lost again, but it has not happened
    for me in a long long time, knock on wood.
     
    Paul Montgumdrop, Sep 25, 2008
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  17. Coogee

    Coogee Guest

    Coogee, Sep 28, 2008
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  18. I don't know if anything in that link will correct the authentication
    problems.

    You might try deleting the account and creating the account again in
    your client newsgroup reader and/or POP3/SMTP email programs.
     
    Paul Montgumdrop, Sep 28, 2008
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