windows\system32\config\regback\software

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Banjo200, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Banjo200

    Banjo200 Guest

    :: I have an HP intel Core 2 Quad 4GB 64 Bit Vista PC, about once a week
    my computer has a mind of its own and pegs my hard drive by executing
    tasks like the ones below for several hours. ::

    ::C:\windows\system32\config\regback\software::
    ::C:\windows\system32\config\regback\system::
    ::C:\windows\system32\config\regback\Sam::
    ::C:\windows\system32\config\regback\security ::
    ::C:\windows\system32\config\regback\Default ::
    :: ::
    How can I schedule the tasks when I am not using my computer?

    Thank you
    Jeff
     
    Banjo200, Sep 21, 2008
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  2. Those aren't "tasks" of any sort. Those are the backup copies of
    portions of your registry. What, precisely, is your computer actually
    doing with those files?


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    Bruce Chambers, Sep 21, 2008
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  3. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    I just got an HP a couple weeks ago and the exact same thing is
    happening every Saturday! Please post if you've found a solution and I
    will do the same.
     
    Janx, Sep 27, 2008
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  4. Banjo200

    Banjo200 Guest

    Hello Janx,

    I opend a case with Microsoft, they claim this is a normal Vista
    process, that would be OK but my system is slower than a snail for
    several hours. I noticed HP stopped selling my Pavilion Model m9250f.
    What Model HP do you have?

    _Microsoft_Answer_
    That is registry backup happening every Monday , That is windows
    process , that is important for the system to happen every Monday , You
    cannot stop that process . That is normal , Its happening for all
    windows operating system .Why that is important to happen ? suppose your
    computer is going to no boot situation in order to do system restore we
    need to have that backup files.

    In this process includes 5 files

    C:\windows\system32\config\regback\software
    C:\windows\system32\config\regback\system
    C:\windows\system32\config\regback\Sam
    C:\windows\system32\config\regback\security
    C:\windows\system32\config\regback\Default

    You no need to worry about that , Its normal ,Please let me send Email
    if you have any issue or question

    Regards,

    Banjo200
     
    Banjo200, Sep 28, 2008
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  5. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    I have the same HP model - m9250f! My system crawls for several hour
    every Saturday. Very frustrating as you can't do anything all day!
    Then poof, the regback finishes and system retunrs to normal. Crazy
     
    Janx, Sep 28, 2008
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  6. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    I just sent an email to HP support to see if they can help. I'll le
    you know what they say
     
    Janx, Sep 28, 2008
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  7. Banjo200

    Banjo200 Guest

    I would be interested why HP discontinued our HP Pavilon Model. Peopl
    running Vista 32 bit do not have the same issue with the RegBack slo
    performance issue.

    I have my (2) 500GB drives set up for RAID 0, so if 1 drive fails th
    other takes over. I wonder if this could be part of the proble
     
    Banjo200, Sep 29, 2008
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  8. Banjo200

    Rick Rogers Guest

    If you're running RAID0 (striping) and one drive fails, it all goes to pot.
    You'd need to be running RAID1 (mirroring) to have fault tolerance.
     
    Rick Rogers, Sep 29, 2008
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  9. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    I do not have 2 drives and RAID 0. I have a 750GB drive only.

    Just got a reply from HP. I'm not sure if they are addressing the
    actual issue. It looks more like general performance troubleshooting but
    I plan to give it a try and see what happens Saturday. Here's what they
    wrote me:

    Thank you for contacting HP Total Care.
    From your email I see that, the performance of the HP Pavilion Elite
    m9350f Desktop PC is very low.
    I greatly appreciate that you have forwarded your concerns and have
    given me a chance to assist you with this matter. I will certainly
    assist you in this regard.
    Daniel, I can understand such issues with the new PC can be very
    upsetting. To resolve this issue, I request you install the below
    updates.
    1. Windows Vista hot fix. Please visit the below HP URL to download and
    install the fix:
    '_ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL24606/pv-63296-1/sp37542.exe_'
    (ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL24606/pv-63296-1/sp37542.exe)
    Installation Instructions
    1. Click the Download Only button.
    2. At the File Download screen, click the Save button.
    3. At the Save As screen, save the file to your Desktop.
    4. If a message appears stating that the file already exists, click YES
    to overwrite file.
    5. Double-click the icon for the update downloaded to your desktop, and
    then click NEXT.
    6. Follow on-screen instructions.
    7. If prompted to restart the system upon completion of the update,
    click YES and allow system to restart.
    2. After installing the Vista hot fix, please visit the below HP URL to
    download and install the Video driver update:
    '_ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL23991/pv-62013-1/sp37520.exe_'
    (ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL23991/pv-62013-1/sp37520.exe)
    Installation Instructions
    1. Click the Download Only button.
    2. At the File Download screen, click the Save button.
    3. At the Save As screen, save the file to your Desktop.
    4. If a message appears stating that the file already exists, click YES
    to overwrite file.
    5. Double-click the icon for the update downloaded to your desktop, and
    then click NEXT.
    6. Follow on-screen instructions.
    7. If prompted to restart the system upon completion of the update,
    click YES and allow system to restart.
    3. After installing the video driver, please visit the below HP URL to
    download and install the BIOS update:
    '_ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL24178/pv-62411-1/sp37533.exe_'
    (ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software10/COL24178/pv-62411-1/sp37533.exe)
    Installation Instructions
    1. Click the Download Only button.
    2. At the File Download screen, click the Save button.
    3. At the Save As screen, save the file to your Desktop.
    4. If a message appears stating that the file already exists, click YES
    to overwrite file.
    5. Double-click the icon for the update downloaded to your desktop, and
    then click NEXT.
    6. Follow on-screen instructions.
    7. If prompted to restart the system upon completion of the update,
    click YES and allow system to restart.
    After installing the above updates, please perform the steps provided
    in the below HP URL. Instead of providing information in a text format,
    we are referring you to the web site where the information is explained
    with graphics and hyperlinks. I am sure this should be helpful to you.
    The link is:
    '_http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00815926&dlc=en_'
    (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00815926&dlc=en)
    NOTE: Clicking the link may give an error indicating it is invalid. If
    this occurs, copy the portion of the address on the remaining line(S)
    and paste it at the end of the address showing in your browser until the
    complete address is displayed in the Address box.
    I believe the above steps should increase the system performance. If
    you find any difficulty in performing the steps or for further
    assistance, please reply to this message and would be here round the
    clock to serve you.
    For information on keeping your HP and Compaq products up and running,
    please visit our Web site at:
    '_http://www.hp.com/go/totalcare_' (http://www.hp.com/go/totalcare)
     
    Janx, Sep 29, 2008
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  10. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    Correction! I have the m9350f. Sorry for any confusion. Still same
    issue though!
     
    Janx, Sep 29, 2008
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  11. This is *not* correct. You are probably thinking of RAID1, also called
    mirroring, in which the behavior you describe is accurate.

    RAID0 is striping. What you describe is not the case with RAID0. Its
    purpose is improved performance (but it very seldom achieves that). If
    one drive fails with RAID0, you lose *everything* on both drives.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Sep 29, 2008
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  12. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    I followed the steps from HP. I carefully read the release notes as
    installed and it doesn't appear that any of the "fixes" have anything t
    do with regback. There was also some general performance tuning steps.
    I guess I will wait and see what happens Saturday. I have a feelin
    that I will be writing HP another note
     
    Janx, Sep 30, 2008
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  13. Banjo200

    kr4ey Guest

    I also have the m9350f and have the same slow performance issues (every
    week).

    Try running chkdsk and defraging your hard drive every week.

    It may be a power supply, motherboard or SATA connection on motherboard
    issue.

    This only has a 460 watt power supply in it, I think it is not enough
    for this hardware.
     
    kr4ey, Sep 30, 2008
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  14. Banjo200

    kr4ey Guest

    Also there is a BIOS update at the HP website for the m9350f.
    Mine was version 5.22
    The new one is 5.24

    Not sure if that is a fix or not but everything went smooth during the
    update here.
     
    kr4ey, Sep 30, 2008
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  15. Banjo200

    AlanX Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I was just browsing to find out what the hell RegBack was as my HDD wa
    going mad.

    I'm running Vista Home Premium 64 on a custom built rig so I dont thin
    it is anything to do with you guys having HP machines.

    Mine only takes about 5 mins to run though. Not hours like you guy
    said although my system is heavily overclocked.

    Try backing up all your media and doing a fresh installation of Vista.
    It sounds like your registries are full of rubish from having Vist
    installed for too long without a good clean-up.
    Alternatively, try installing a good reg clean-up tool.

    The more rubbish and the more fragmented your registry becomes, th
    slower Windows and regback will run
     
    AlanX, Sep 30, 2008
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  16. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    Hey! I don't believe it but the HP fix worked! I watched my system
    closely this morning and when regback started running it didn't hog the
    disk read/write. I launched several apps to test performance and
    everything worked fine. Also, regback only ran a couple minutes this
    time. Perhaps one of the vista hot fixes HP gave me did the trick after
    all. Try following the directions in my previous post (Note -At least
    one update was a driver for my video card so only do what makes sense on
    your machine).
     
    Janx, Oct 4, 2008
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  17. Banjo200

    Janx Guest

    One other thing I should mention. A friend of mine gave me a good idea
    to try. If the problem persisted and I couldn't resolve my next step
    was to change my time zone on Friday nights to trick the system to run
    regback in the middle of the night. Banjo, Might be worth a try if the
    HP fix doesn't work for you.
     
    Janx, Oct 4, 2008
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  18. Banjo200

    Banjo200 Guest

    GREAT NEWS , I just sent HP an e-mail to validate if I can add the sam
    hot fixes to my HP Pavilion Elite m9250f PC in an attempt to resolve th
    regback performance problem

    Thank yo
     
    Banjo200, Oct 4, 2008
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  19. Banjo200

    barman58 Guest

    Are you sure you mean Raid 0 Here? that will not give you the backu
    option you may want


    - RAID 0 (striped disks) distributes data across several disks in
    way that gives improved speed and full capacity, but all data on al
    disks will be lost if any one disk fails



    - RAID 1 (mirrored disks) could be described as a backup solution
    using two (possibly more) disks that each store the same data so tha
    data is not lost as long as one disk survives. Total capacity of th
    array is just the capacity of a single disk. The failure of one drive
    in the event of a hardware or software malfunction, does not increas
    the chance of a failure nor decrease the reliability of the remainin
    drives (second, third, etc)



    - RAID 5 (striped disks with parity) combines three or more disks i
    a way that protects data against loss of any one disk; the storag
    capacity of the array is reduced by one disk



    - RAID 6 (less common) can recover from the loss of two disks



    - RAID 10 (or 1+0) uses both striping and mirroring


    above from the article in Wikipedi
    'RAID - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

    As to the scheduling of this backup you may be able to alter th
    schedule in task schedule

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    understand.,- frank herbert
     
    barman58, Oct 4, 2008
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  20. That's correct, except that in practice RAID 0 usually proves either
    *no* improved speed or such a tiny amount that it can be ignored. The
    one thing it mostly does is dramatically increase the risk to what's
    on the drives; that tiny increase in performance (if any) is not worth
    the greatly increased risk.



    I completely disagree.

    Most people completely misunderstand what RAID 1 is all about.
    RAID 1 (mirroring) is *not* a backup solution. RAID 1 uses two or more
    drives, each a duplicate of the others, to provide redundancy, not
    backup. It's used in situations (almost always within corporations,
    not in homes) where any downtime can't be tolerated, because the way
    it works is that if one drive fails the other takes over seamlessly
    and almost instantly.

    Although some people thing of RAID 1 as a backup technique, that is
    *not* what it is, since it's subject to simultaneous loss of the
    original and the mirror to many of the most common dangers threatening
    your data--severe power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, user
    errors, virus attacks, theft of the computer, etc. Most companies that
    use RAID 1 also have a strong external backup plan in place.


    Read my thoughts on backup here:
    http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=314

    Also read here: Why RAID is (usually) a Terrible Idea
    http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles?&id=29
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Oct 4, 2008
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