Windows Update error 80200053

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by John Riehl, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. John Riehl

    John Riehl Guest

    I've seen this referenced a few times, but never solved. I get error
    80200053 when trying to run update. I saw a post that suggested cleaning out
    the download cache in windows\softwaredistribution, which I did to no effect.
    I suspect that this is also causing problems with McAfee, which cannot get
    the latest updates. Any ideas? Thanks.
     
    John Riehl, Nov 12, 2007
    #1
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  2. 80200053 = validation failure

    I'd suspect that McAfee is the cause of all the issues. You could try
    Validating Vista once more but, even if the system passes Validation
    that has nothing to do with McAfee failing to update.

    Is this update installed ? : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941649
    Since none of the ' third-party antivirus software applications ' are
    given a name, I guess it's up to us to guess which ones are not playing
    nice with Vista <w>


    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
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    Never Forgotten
    ===============
     
    MowGreen [MVP], Nov 12, 2007
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  3. John Riehl

    John Riehl Guest

    MowGreen,

    This sounds reasonable. I'm trying to download the patch but of course the
    download site hasn't been responding for the last two days. Will let you
    know when I finally can get the patch downloaded and installed.

    John

     
    John Riehl, Nov 14, 2007
    #3
  4. John Riehl

    John Riehl Guest

    I finally got the KB941649 patch to load, but it didn't fix the problem. Now
    I also get error 80070570 (which also appears to be undocumented). Any
    insights, or can this only be fixed by starting from scratch and
    reinstalling? Thanks.

    John

     
    John Riehl, Nov 14, 2007
    #4
  5. John Riehl

    John Riehl Guest

    Sorry, I posted before I got all my frustration out. So, a few more facts:

    McAfee update appears to be working again, but the errors are still coming
    from Windows Update. Specifically, the following updates are erroring out:

    Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (error 80200053)
    Cumulative Update for Media Center for Windows Vista - KB941229 (error
    80070570)
    Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 - KB941833 (error
    80200053)

    Looking at your post, if McAfee is causing the problem then theoretically I
    could disable it when bringing in updates. That doesn't feel like a good
    solution to me...after all, the whole point of a virus checker is to protect
    me from things I'm downloading from the internet. However, I'm willing to
    give it a try if you think it's a good idea. Thanks for your help.

    John

     
    John Riehl, Nov 14, 2007
    #5
  6. 80200053 = BG_E_VALIDATION_FAILED
    80070570 = ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT

    If you're uncomfortable disabling McAfee while connected to the
    net/network, then download the updates manually, save them, close all
    open browsers and programs, then disconnect the system, disable, McAfee,
    and then install the updates.

    Defender updates are here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/default.aspx

    Installation instructions for the Definitions here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx#top

    Then visit the MS Download Center for KB941229:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...21-4427-483d-8309-4c18de611bd4&DisplayLang=en
    and KB941833:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...73-c3df-473b-99e4-66380a5cc117&DisplayLang=en

    The above are for the 32 bit [x86] versions of Vista.
    If you need 64 bit versions, visit here and enter the KB #s in the
    Search window:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    You should read this, John:

    You cannot turn on an optional feature, install a Windows update,
    install a hotfix, or install a language pack on a Windows Vista-based
    computer
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============


     
    MowGreen [MVP], Nov 15, 2007
    #6
  7. John Riehl

    John Riehl Guest

    MowGreen,

    Thanks for your continued patience. I guess I'm surprised that a mainstream
    anti-virus product like McAfee would intefere with Vista. However, I did
    turn it all off and tried to install the updates...and they were
    unsuccessful, returning the same errors as before. Is there some sort of a
    log file or something that I can include that would help you and/or the
    Microsoft engineers diagnose this problem? Thanks.

    John

     
    John Riehl, Nov 18, 2007
    #7
  8. John,

    Suggest you call in for no charge support. Since the error code for
    Defender is the same as the one for the MSXML update, use one of the 2
    Free Support requests:
    http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?Gprid=11952

    In the US the phone number is 866-PCSAFETY
    I'm really not clear if the free support is limited to WD on XP or if it
    includes Vista.

    If you can not install Security updates, then MS offers no charge support.
    Reliability/compatibility/stability updates are only supported by MS if
    this is a Retail copy of Vista.
    Otherwise it's up to the OEM to support the OS during the Warranty period.

    You didn't mention whether you attempted to install this update:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538
    If not, then at least give it a shot prior to calling in.

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============



     
    MowGreen [MVP], Nov 18, 2007
    #8
  9. I have had this problem since upgrading from XP to Vista and thought that the upgrade to Windows 7 would cure it, but it didn't.

    The problem is with the TCP window scaling used by Vista and Windows 7 being incompatible with some routers. There are two fixes:
    1) Change the router: I disabled SPI (Statefull Packet Inspection) on my Netgear WGR614 router and the problem went away
    2) Use IPConfig to configure the OS to not use TCP Window Scaling - instructions are on the Microsoft site.

    This problem also prevented me from downloading Adobe, Chrome, Skype and every other file I tried.

    Hope this is of help to others.

    MP in NZ.



    MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

    John,Suggest you call in for no charge support.
    18-Nov-07

    John

    Suggest you call in for no charge support. Since the error code for
    Defender is the same as the one for the MSXML update, use one of the 2
    Free Support requests
    http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?Gprid=1195

    In the US the phone number is 866-PCSAFET

    I'm really not clear if the free support is limited to WD on XP or if it
    includes Vista

    If you can not install Security updates, then MS offers no charge support
    Reliability/compatibility/stability updates are only supported by MS if
    this is a Retail copy of Vista
    Otherwise it's up to the OEM to support the OS during the Warranty period

    You didn't mention whether you attempted to install this update
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/93453
    If not, then at least give it a shot prior to calling in

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008
    ==============
    *-343-* FDN
    Never Forgotte
    ===============

    Previous Posts In This Thread:

    Windows Update error 80200053
    I've seen this referenced a few times, but never solved. I get error
    80200053 when trying to run update. I saw a post that suggested cleaning out
    the download cache in windows\softwaredistribution, which I did to no effect.
    I suspect that this is also causing problems with McAfee, which cannot get
    the latest updates. Any ideas? Thanks.

    80200053 = validation failureI'd suspect that McAfee is the cause of all the
    80200053 = validation failur

    I'd suspect that McAfee is the cause of all the issues. You could try
    Validating Vista once more but, even if the system passes Validation
    that has nothing to do with McAfee failing to update

    Is this update installed ? : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/94164

    Since none of the ' third-party antivirus software applications ' are
    given a name, I guess it's up to us to guess which ones are not playing
    nice with Vista <w

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008
    ==============
    *-343-* FDN
    Never Forgotte
    ==============


    John Riehl wrote:

    MowGreen,This sounds reasonable.
    MowGreen

    This sounds reasonable. I'm trying to download the patch but of course the
    download site hasn't been responding for the last two days. Will let you
    know when I finally can get the patch downloaded and installed

    Joh

    :

    I finally got the KB941649 patch to load, but it didn't fix the problem.
    I finally got the KB941649 patch to load, but it didn't fix the problem. Now
    I also get error 80070570 (which also appears to be undocumented). Any
    insights, or can this only be fixed by starting from scratch and
    reinstalling? Thanks

    Joh

    :

    Sorry, I posted before I got all my frustration out.
    Sorry, I posted before I got all my frustration out. So, a few more facts

    McAfee update appears to be working again, but the errors are still coming
    from Windows Update. Specifically, the following updates are erroring out

    Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (error 80200053
    Cumulative Update for Media Center for Windows Vista - KB941229 (error
    80070570
    Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 - KB941833 (error
    80200053)

    Looking at your post, if McAfee is causing the problem then theoretically I
    could disable it when bringing in updates. That doesn't feel like a good
    solution to me...after all, the whole point of a virus checker is to protect
    me from things I'm downloading from the internet. However, I'm willing to
    give it a try if you think it's a good idea. Thanks for your help.

    John

    :

    80200053 = BG_E_VALIDATION_FAILED80070570 = ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTIf you're
    80200053 = BG_E_VALIDATION_FAILED
    80070570 = ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT

    If you're uncomfortable disabling McAfee while connected to the
    net/network, then download the updates manually, save them, close all
    open browsers and programs, then disconnect the system, disable, McAfee,
    and then install the updates.

    Defender updates are here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/default.aspx

    Installation instructions for the Definitions here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx#top

    Then visit the MS Download Center for KB941229:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...21-4427-483d-8309-4c18de611bd4&DisplayLang=en
    and KB941833:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...73-c3df-473b-99e4-66380a5cc117&DisplayLang=en

    The above are for the 32 bit [x86] versions of Vista.
    If you need 64 bit versions, visit here and enter the KB #s in the
    Search window:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    You should read this, John:

    You cannot turn on an optional feature, install a Windows update,
    install a hotfix, or install a language pack on a Windows Vista-based
    computer
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============


    John Riehl wrote:

    MowGreen,Thanks for your continued patience.
    MowGreen,

    Thanks for your continued patience. I guess I'm surprised that a mainstream
    anti-virus product like McAfee would intefere with Vista. However, I did
    turn it all off and tried to install the updates...and they were
    unsuccessful, returning the same errors as before. Is there some sort of a
    log file or something that I can include that would help you and/or the
    Microsoft engineers diagnose this problem? Thanks.

    John

    :

    John,Suggest you call in for no charge support.
    John,

    Suggest you call in for no charge support. Since the error code for
    Defender is the same as the one for the MSXML update, use one of the 2
    Free Support requests:
    http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?Gprid=11952

    In the US the phone number is 866-PCSAFETY


    I'm really not clear if the free support is limited to WD on XP or if it
    includes Vista.

    If you can not install Security updates, then MS offers no charge support.
    Reliability/compatibility/stability updates are only supported by MS if
    this is a Retail copy of Vista.
    Otherwise it's up to the OEM to support the OS during the Warranty period.

    You didn't mention whether you attempted to install this update:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538
    If not, then at least give it a shot prior to calling in.

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============


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    Web - Based .NET Framework Class Browser
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    #9
  10. John Riehl

    MowGreen Guest

    Sorry Mark, there's not enough information in your post so that others
    may implement it. IF a User encounters the error and there is no Netgear
    router involved nor does the router have SPI capabilities,
    *specifically*, where are the instructions to not use TCP Windows
    Scaling for Vista/Windows 7 ?

    Is this it ?

    Description of the Receive Window Auto-Tuning feature for HTTP traffic
    on Windows Vista-based computers
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947239

    netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled



    MowGreen
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============

    banthecheck.com
    "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
     
    MowGreen, Jan 19, 2010
    #10
  11. John Riehl

    RobertAtHome Guest

    I have had this problem and I am running a Windows Vista Home Premium on a
    Fujitsu Siemens Scaleo computer. My PC uses a wireless USB connection
    (D-LINK DWA 140 Rangebooster) to a D-LINK DIR-655 Router.

    I get this problem when I try to install IE 8.

    I tried your idea with:
    runas with the only user that is an administrator (not called administrator
    though)
    and then
    netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

    Didn't work since this requires a raise in privilege. Any suggestions?

    I seem to get this error code when trying to install IE updates.

    Windows update shows the code 80070570 when trying to to security upgrade
    to Windows Vista (KB974145). Gets a link to Microsoft security bulletin:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS10-009.mspx
    It is stated there that:
    "The security update addresses the vulnerabilities by changing the way
    Windows TCP/IP performs bounds checking and other packet handling operations."

    Do I have some kind of TCP/IP problem on this computer?

    Please advice
     
    RobertAtHome, Apr 10, 2010
    #11
  12. Because your Administrator doesn't have a password assigned to it? Add a
    password to it then you can use it. Otherwise retry the procedure in a
    safe mode boot with cmd only.


    <cmd_output OS="W7">
    C:\>set /a c = 0x570
    1392
    C:\>net helpmsg %c%

    The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable.
    </cmd_output>


    That sounds unhealthy. ; }


    HTH

    Robert Aldwinckle
    ---
     
    Robert Aldwinckle, Apr 11, 2010
    #12
  13. John Riehl

    robert moore Guest

    I was having the same problem with Windows Update and getting the error code 80200053.

    Microsoft can fix the problem for you - go to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058#FixItForMeAlways site.

    I am running Windows Vista, and you must be using it with service pack 1 (SP1) or service pack 2 (SP2) for the fix to work.

    Can't understand why microsoft makes it so difficult to find solutions to problems.



    JohnRieh wrote:

    Windows Update error 80200053
    11-Nov-07

    I've seen this referenced a few times, but never solved. I get error
    80200053 when trying to run update. I saw a post that suggested cleaning out
    the download cache in windows\softwaredistribution, which I did to no effect.
    I suspect that this is also causing problems with McAfee, which cannot get
    the latest updates. Any ideas? Thanks.

    Previous Posts In This Thread:

    Windows Update error 80200053
    I've seen this referenced a few times, but never solved. I get error
    80200053 when trying to run update. I saw a post that suggested cleaning out
    the download cache in windows\softwaredistribution, which I did to no effect.
    I suspect that this is also causing problems with McAfee, which cannot get
    the latest updates. Any ideas? Thanks.

    80200053 = validation failureI'd suspect that McAfee is the cause of all the
    80200053 = validation failur

    I'd suspect that McAfee is the cause of all the issues. You could try
    Validating Vista once more but, even if the system passes Validation
    that has nothing to do with McAfee failing to update

    Is this update installed ? : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/94164

    Since none of the ' third-party antivirus software applications ' are
    given a name, I guess it's up to us to guess which ones are not playing
    nice with Vista <w

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008
    ==============
    *-343-* FDN
    Never Forgotte
    ==============


    John Riehl wrote:

    MowGreen,This sounds reasonable.
    MowGreen

    This sounds reasonable. I'm trying to download the patch but of course the
    download site hasn't been responding for the last two days. Will let you
    know when I finally can get the patch downloaded and installed

    Joh

    :

    I finally got the KB941649 patch to load, but it didn't fix the problem.
    I finally got the KB941649 patch to load, but it didn't fix the problem. Now
    I also get error 80070570 (which also appears to be undocumented). Any
    insights, or can this only be fixed by starting from scratch and
    reinstalling? Thanks

    Joh

    :

    Sorry, I posted before I got all my frustration out.
    Sorry, I posted before I got all my frustration out. So, a few more facts

    McAfee update appears to be working again, but the errors are still coming
    from Windows Update. Specifically, the following updates are erroring out

    Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (error 80200053
    Cumulative Update for Media Center for Windows Vista - KB941229 (error
    80070570
    Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 - KB941833 (error
    80200053

    Looking at your post, if McAfee is causing the problem then theoretically I
    could disable it when bringing in updates. That doesn't feel like a good
    solution to me...after all, the whole point of a virus checker is to protect
    me from things I'm downloading from the internet. However, I'm willing to
    give it a try if you think it's a good idea. Thanks for your help

    Joh

    :

    80200053 = BG_E_VALIDATION_FAILED80070570 = ERROR_FILE_CORRUPTIf you're
    80200053 = BG_E_VALIDATION_FAILE
    80070570 = ERROR_FILE_CORRUP

    If you're uncomfortable disabling McAfee while connected to the
    net/network, then download the updates manually, save them, close all
    open browsers and programs, then disconnect the system, disable, McAfee,
    and then install the updates.

    Defender updates are here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/default.aspx

    Installation instructions for the Definitions here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/ADL.aspx#top

    Then visit the MS Download Center for KB941229:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...21-4427-483d-8309-4c18de611bd4&DisplayLang=en
    and KB941833:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...73-c3df-473b-99e4-66380a5cc117&DisplayLang=en

    The above are for the 32 bit [x86] versions of Vista.
    If you need 64 bit versions, visit here and enter the KB #s in the
    Search window:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

    You should read this, John:

    You cannot turn on an optional feature, install a Windows update,
    install a hotfix, or install a language pack on a Windows Vista-based
    computer
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============


    John Riehl wrote:

    MowGreen,Thanks for your continued patience.
    MowGreen,

    Thanks for your continued patience. I guess I'm surprised that a mainstream
    anti-virus product like McAfee would intefere with Vista. However, I did
    turn it all off and tried to install the updates...and they were
    unsuccessful, returning the same errors as before. Is there some sort of a
    log file or something that I can include that would help you and/or the
    Microsoft engineers diagnose this problem? Thanks.

    John

    :

    John,Suggest you call in for no charge support.
    John,

    Suggest you call in for no charge support. Since the error code for
    Defender is the same as the one for the MSXML update, use one of the 2
    Free Support requests:
    http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?Gprid=11952

    In the US the phone number is 866-PCSAFETY


    I'm really not clear if the free support is limited to WD on XP or if it
    includes Vista.

    If you can not install Security updates, then MS offers no charge support.
    Reliability/compatibility/stability updates are only supported by MS if
    this is a Retail copy of Vista.
    Otherwise it's up to the OEM to support the OS during the Warranty period.

    You didn't mention whether you attempted to install this update:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934538
    If not, then at least give it a shot prior to calling in.

    MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============

    Just fixed this error on my Windows 7 PC
    I have had this problem since upgrading from XP to Vista and thought that the upgrade to Windows 7 would cure it, but it didn't.

    The problem is with the TCP window scaling used by Vista and Windows 7 being incompatible with some routers. There are two fixes:
    1) Change the router: I disabled SPI (Statefull Packet Inspection) on my Netgear WGR614 router and the problem went away
    2) Use IPConfig to configure the OS to not use TCP Window Scaling - instructions are on the Microsoft site.

    This problem also prevented me from downloading Adobe, Chrome, Skype and every other file I tried.

    Hope this is of help to others.

    MP in NZ.

    I have had this problem and I am running a Windows Vista Home Premium on
    I have had this problem and I am running a Windows Vista Home Premium on a
    Fujitsu Siemens Scaleo computer. My PC uses a wireless USB connection
    (D-LINK DWA 140 Rangebooster) to a D-LINK DIR-655 Router.

    I get this problem when I try to install IE 8.

    I tried your idea with:
    runas with the only user that is an administrator (not called administrator
    though)
    and then
    netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

    Didn't work since this requires a raise in privilege. Any suggestions?

    I seem to get this error code when trying to install IE updates.

    Windows update shows the code 80070570 when trying to to security upgrade
    to Windows Vista (KB974145). Gets a link to Microsoft security bulletin:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS10-009.mspx
    It is stated there that:
    "The security update addresses the vulnerabilities by changing the way
    Windows TCP/IP performs bounds checking and other packet handling operations."

    Do I have some kind of TCP/IP problem on this computer?

    Please advice

    --
    Thank you
    RobertAtHome


    :

    Because your Administrator does not have a password assigned to it?
    Because your Administrator does not have a password assigned to it? Add a
    password to it then you can use it. Otherwise retry the procedure in a
    safe mode boot with cmd only.




    <cmd_output OS="W7">
    C:\>set /a c = 0x570
    1392
    C:\>net helpmsg %c%

    The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable.
    </cmd_output>


    That sounds unhealthy. ; }


    HTH

    Robert Aldwinckle
    ---


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    robert moore, Jun 24, 2010
    #13
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