Windows Updates is offering MS Office 2007 updates -> but I have Office2000 installed (?)

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by XP Guy, May 16, 2012.

  1. XP Guy

    Char Jackson Guest

    You know what happens when you assume, right?
     
    Char Jackson, May 18, 2012
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  2. XP Guy

    Char Jackson Guest

    Who is this "we" that you always talk about? Do you have multiple
    personalities?
     
    Char Jackson, May 18, 2012
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  3. XP Guy

    BillW50 Guest

    In Char Jackson typed:
    No lots of friends Char.
     
    BillW50, May 18, 2012
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  4. XP Guy

    BillW50 Guest

    In Char Jackson typed:
    Not in this case Char. If I assumed wrong, nothing changes.
     
    BillW50, May 18, 2012
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  5. XP Guy

    Char Jackson Guest

    I think you left out two commas, which changes things somewhat.
    Anyway, where are the 'we' folk? How come they never speak? Are they
    mice in your pocket?
     
    Char Jackson, May 18, 2012
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  6. XP Guy

    Char Jackson Guest

    Nothing changes? You answered a question that was never asked.
     
    Char Jackson, May 18, 2012
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  7. XP Guy

    glee Guest

    replies inline, below...


    Simple... go to http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx
    Type Office 2000 in the Search box at the top, and press the Enter key.
    Very easy.


    Because they are incorrect. Wikipedia and Ehow are your go-to sources?
    The Wikipedia page says nothing about Office Updates being available via
    Windows Update service. Ehow is wrong.

    Office Updates prior to 1998 came from www.microsoft.com/office where
    there were updates listed among the Office downloads available, in an
    area called Free Stuff and Software Library, I believe.... plus an
    Office 97 Version Checker tool you could download and run to determine
    if you had the necessary prerequisites for a particular service pack.
    You searched and downloaded manually. Updates were also available for
    Office 97 on Microsoft Tools on the Web.

    I believe it was in 1998 sometime, the site was changed to
    http://officeupdate.microsoft.com. It did not yet support automatic
    updates, so you had to find the updates yourself till they added a
    scanner to do it for you on the site that worked with Office 2000 and
    newer. You could, however, become a member of Office Update and get
    email notifications of new add-ins and updates. Automatic updates
    directly on your computer, for Office, came later.

    How did YOU get updates for Office 95 and 97, Bill? Surely you used
    them and got updates, no? I know you didn't get them via Windows
    Update, because it only had updates for Windows and it's components,
    including IE/OE.
     
    glee, May 18, 2012
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  8. XP Guy

    BillW50 Guest

    In glee typed on Fri, 18 May 2012 03:53:55 -0400:
    Easy? Your idea of easy and mine are totally different. Neither the OP
    nor I have the time to weed through 387 hits. I always knew you always
    waste my time. But I didn't know that you also waste other's time
    as well.
    Both Wikipedia and Ehow allow people to correct their content. If you
    feel they are in error, feel free to correct them, no big deal.
    Microsoft is also sometimes wrong, but Microsoft has no means for
    somebody to correct their errors.
    Office 97 was never updated through www.microsoft.com/office for one.
    And I am looking at my Office 2000 CD and it says
    www.microsoft.com/office right on the jewel box. And Wikipedia says the
    exact same thing.
    I never had Office 95 and I hated Office 97 because it crashed all of
    the time. And I don't recall how I update Office 97 anymore. But I do
    recall the update called Office 2000 that actually fixed Office 97. And
    Office 2000 was stable and Office 97 was not.
     
    BillW50, Jun 2, 2012
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    Nil Guest

    In a former job I supported hundreds of Office 97 users. There were
    absolutely no such "crashing all the time" problem. I used Office 97
    myself for many years, and I don't remember it ever crashing. It's one
    of the most stable things I had ever seem come out of Microsoft at that
    time. Much more so than Office 95, which DID tend to crash, which is
    why we got rid of it when 97 was available. Office 2003, which I now
    use, is also solid as a rock.

    Nobody else has the constant computer problems you do. I wonder why
    that is?
     
    Nil, Jun 2, 2012
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  10. XP Guy

    glee Guest

    Geez, you're just sad. You think finding updates on the MSFT download
    site is too hard. You can't operate Windows or Office without constant
    problems. You can't use a search engine well enough to find references
    to Office Update prior to 2000. Office 97 updates were downloaded from
    www.microsoft.com/office. I don't really care if you want to believe it
    or not. Did you ever even download updates for Office 97?

    Here is just one reference, from Feb. 1998 when Office 97 was the latest
    version, of how updates and extras were made available starting at that
    time, through www.microsoft.com/office.
    http://groups.google.com/group/micr...dd/4c8565d6d3ea91d3?q=microsoft+office+update

    When you learn how to use a search engine, you can find the info
    yourself instead of calling people names and letting us do your homework
    for you. I've wasted too much time answering your ridiculous statements
    because you're too lazy to do your own research.
     
    glee, Jun 2, 2012
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    BillW50 Guest

    In glee typed:
    Really? I am running XP SP2 without any problems whatsoever. I also run
    Office 2000 without any problems whatsoever. I ran Windows 3.1 besides a
    few flaky drivers without problems. I am running Windows 2000 on a
    netbook without problems. And I can go on and on. Any more delusions you
    want to tell us about Glen?
    I did Glen, you just forgot and are delusional. But you rejected them
    because you say they are wrong.
    Where does it say Office 97 updates are found at
    www.microsoft.com/office at the link you had posted, Glen? I see goodies
    that Office 97 users can use, but nothing about updates. Are you really
    that incompetent?

    Here, let me help your incompetence.

    http://web.archive.org/web/19990117003141/http://www.microsoft.com/office/default.htm

    This is what www.microsoft.com/office looked like back in 1999. And it
    shows a link to Office 97 SR2 and everything else is about up and coming
    Office 2000. And the site didn't exist prior to February of 1998. So
    where did you get your Office 97 updates from?
     
    BillW50, Jun 2, 2012
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    Nil Guest

    Oh, and another thing: how exactly did you "push Office 97 to its
    limits" in order to make it "crash all the time"? Please be as specific
    as you can. I'm truly curious, because I saw people do the most bizarre
    things with Excel and Word, and I never saw it crash all the time.
    Maybe once in a blue moon, but "all the time"... never. I used to use
    Access extensively, and if it ever crashed, it was something I did with
    VBA, not the program itself. Very stable and reliable.
     
    Nil, Jun 2, 2012
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    Nil Guest

    As he mentioned before, that's an old site that's not used any more.
    That's why he used the word "WAS". That means, "past tense".

    Office 97 updates are still available at

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/office.aspx?q=office

    All you have to do is search for Office 97 in the search bar at the top
    of the page. Is that really so hard?
     
    Nil, Jun 2, 2012
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  14. XP Guy

    BillW50 Guest

    In Nil typed:
    I found the same thing that Bob had found. Both Office 97 and Windows 98
    had memory leaks and sooner or later Office 97 would crash. Office 97
    coupled with Windows 2000 or later might be ok, since Windows 2000 and
    later didn't have that System Resource limit that Windows 98 did. So the
    memory leaks in Office 97 didn't really mean much as all it did is to
    eat more VM and it probably could stay stable.

    I don't remember much about Office 97 and Windows 2000. As when I was
    running Windows 2000 (thank goodness) I was also quickly running Office
    2000 (also thank goodness) which worked well together. Stable as a rock
    for me. Later Windows versions like XP, Windows 7 and 8, Office 2000
    was/is still stable. And so far it does everything that I need that I
    see no reason to go to a later version of Office. Office 2003 was/is a
    bit tempting though, but not worth the price for me.
     
    BillW50, Jun 3, 2012
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    Nil Guest

    Who is this "kaplinb" and why do you put so much stock in his
    unsupported, unspecific rant? Do you know him personally, or have some
    insight as to what, specifically, he's referring to?
    So, you decline to address the point that their problem was with the
    ODBC driver, and not Office. OK, I though you would.
    So, you decline to address the point that this anonymous person is
    ranting about an old, unpatched version of Office, running on another
    platform than the one under discussion. OK, I thought you would.
     
    Nil, Jun 3, 2012
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    BillW50 Guest

    In Nil typed:
    Well I never stated that Office 97 updates are not available. Although
    Glen made it sound like Office 97 updates could always be found at
    www.microsoft.com/office. But that wasn't true since Office 97 was
    around long before that site ever existed.
     
    BillW50, Jun 3, 2012
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    glee Guest


    I really can't accept that you are as stupid as you are making yourself
    out to be. Your screenshot from the web archive (missing all the
    graphics) does not show anything but the "News" page. The Office
    downloads and updates were via the links right on that page that even
    you should be able to see.... the ones that say "Downloads and More...",
    for example. The "Office 97" link for ordering Office 97 is on the
    right side.

    First you claimed there was NO Office Update site prior to Office 2000,
    then confronted about that misinformation, you claim that it DID exist
    but there were no updates.... so it was an Update site with no updates?
    Seriously, you are going to propose that? Did you even read the info at
    the link I gave you? It was copied and pasted into the reply posted
    there, directly from the Office web site in 1998. It clearly states:
    "You'll find previously posted Free Stuff throughout this new site, all
    now under the Update umbrella. This has been part of the re-design and
    re-structuring of the entire Office site...". Apparently you can't
    understand that word, UPDATE, repeated throughout the copy. "All it
    takes is one registration, which you can complete by linking to
    http://www.microsoft.com/office/update1.asp"... there's that word
    again... UPDATE.

    I wonder if you ever even got updates for Office 97... you're just
    arguing with no first-hand experience of the site at that time. To go
    back to your original statement in this thread regarding Office updates,
    you claim Office updates prior to Office 2000 came from Windows Update.
    That is simply not true. Rant on, you lose more credibility with each
    post you make.

    As for your many issues with software, you yourself admitted them in
    your reply to Nil a little while ago, among other places. As I said,
    you're just sad.
     
    glee, Jun 3, 2012
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    glee Guest

    Before the Office Update site existed by that name, there was still a
    separate Office support and download page with updates, as was already
    mentioned in the link I gave earlier today. The ONLY thing on the
    Windows Update site re: Office was a LINK in the corner of the main page
    that took you to the separate Office update pages at Microsoft.
     
    glee, Jun 3, 2012
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    BillW50 Guest

    In Nil typed:
    No I don't know him from Adam, but I know what they are talking about. I
    also know many IT people. Some are barely brighter than an average user
    and a few are really knowledgeable.
    The ODBC driver wasn't important, but the general comments about Office
    97 were. Although that flew right over your head.
    You still don't get it. Office 97 has too many memory leaks. Windows 98
    itself also has memory leaks. Both when combined means instability
    problems. And that is exactly what I had found too. I don't remember if
    I ever ran Office 2000 under Windows 98 or if I ever ran Office 97 under
    Windows 2000. If I did it was for just a brief period of time and was
    forgotten. I can tell you though that Office 97 coupled with Windows 98
    was a disaster. And I do remember that Office 97 and Windows 95 was even
    worse.
     
    BillW50, Jun 3, 2012
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    Nil Guest

    The ODBC driver is precisely the subject of that conversation you
    cited. That apparently flew over your head.
    I must assume you never updated Office 97 to SR-2, which fixed most
    problems. Too bad you had to suffer so unnecessarily.
     
    Nil, Jun 3, 2012
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