Windows Virtual PC and Hardware Virtualization

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by Herb Tarlek, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. Herb Tarlek

    Herb Tarlek Guest

    I would like to upgrade to Windows 7 and run Windows Virtual PC. I don't
    have hardware virtualization on my Intel CPU. I don't care about Windows XP
    Mode.

    I am using Vista and Virtual PC 2007 and that works pretty well for me now
    on this hardware. Has something changed that requires the hardware
    virtualization?

    Can I use Win 7 with Virtual PC (without Windows XP mode) if I do not have
    Intel Virtualization Technology in my CPU?
     
    Herb Tarlek, Sep 9, 2009
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    ohaya Guest

    Hi,

    Googling I found:

    http://smehrozalam.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/running-ms-virtual-pc-2007-on-windows-7-rc/

    That was on Win7 RC, but I guess, should work on Win7 also?

    Jim
     
    ohaya, Sep 9, 2009
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    Bill Grant Guest

    Yes, VPC 2007 R1 runs quite nicely on Windows7. It is not officially
    supported . It will not install if you have the new Win 7 version of VPC
    already installed.
     
    Bill Grant, Sep 9, 2009
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  4. You can use VPC 2007, but not Windows VPC (the new version of VPC for
    Windows 7).
    Windows VPC requires hardware virtualization, VPC2007 does not.
    VPC2007 will run under Windows. 7
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Sep 9, 2009
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  5. Herb Tarlek

    Herb Tarlek Guest

    Thanks for the quick replies. I use virtual machines for more most of my
    work. I think I will stay on Vista with VPC 2007 SP1 since that is
    supported, unless others post there is no risk. My understanding is VPC 2007
    SP1 is not supported on Windows 7. My PC is only a few months old, it is a
    shame I got the wrong CPU! Hopefully others will benefit from this post.
     
    Herb Tarlek, Sep 10, 2009
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    alexdagr8est Guest

    It will DEFINITELY work, but I suggest that you use something like..
    Vmware player or vmware workstation and just make sure that you hav
    enough ram. Vmware player is free, workstation you can find with crack
    on a torrent website
     
    alexdagr8est, Sep 10, 2009
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    Bo Berglund Guest

    Why would you want to do that?
    If you are serious about your work you should not use cracked
    software....
     
    Bo Berglund, Sep 10, 2009
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  8. Herb Tarlek

    alexdagr8est Guest

    Ok i guess it is morally wrong...
     
    alexdagr8est, Sep 10, 2009
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  9. I have to say that making the Win7 version of VPC depend on hardware
    virtualization, and not supporting VPC 2007 or Virtual Server 2005 on Windows 7
    are very grave errors on Microsoft's part.

    It's just going to drive a lot of us to VMWare or other virtualization solutions.
     
    David Wilkinson, Sep 10, 2009
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  10. Yeah, why should someone get paid for doing work! Stealing software
    is just that, stealing.
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Sep 10, 2009
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    ohaya Guest

    Or, as in my situation now, prevent me, and give me another reason to
    not want to, upgrade to Win7...

    Jim
     
    ohaya, Sep 10, 2009
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    ohaya Guest


    Hi,

    I'm probably going the same way (Win7 + VPC 2007 SP1), for the same
    reason (relatively new laptop that JUST HAPPENS to have the "wrong"
    CPU), but doesn't "not supported" also mean "not supported"?

    What I mean by that is that doesn't "not supported" also mean that if
    someone runs into, heaven forbid, a previously undetected bug in VPC
    2007 SP1, that, say, just happens to occur only when running on Win7,
    that MS would probably not fix the bug?

    Jim
     
    ohaya, Sep 11, 2009
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    lemur Guest

    What about Sun's Virtualbox. I don't have any experience, but I've read
    good feedback in the past. Free.
    'VirtualBox' (http://www.virtualbox.org/)
     
    lemur, Sep 11, 2009
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  14. It's very good.
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Sep 12, 2009
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    Bo Berglund Guest

    Does it do USB in the free version?
    I looked at VBX a few years ago (before SUN bought it) and then you
    did not get USB unless you paid....
     
    Bo Berglund, Sep 12, 2009
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    Bo Berglund Guest

    Checked myself:
    http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
    Apparently only in the paid-for "Closed Source Ediition".
    So VMWare Player seems to be the sole candidate for free
    virtualization with USB support on Windows hosts....
     
    Bo Berglund, Sep 12, 2009
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    SaGS Guest

    As I understand that page, the "VirtualBox Personal Use and Evaluation
    License", and the Licensing FAQ, USB support could be available for free,
    depending on your use. It is not available in the Open Source version, but
    the closed source version is also free for many purposes. See paragraph 2 in
    the PUEL http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox_PUEL and question 6 at
    http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ - even usage for a business
    qualifies as "personal use" unless VirtualBox is admin-installed on multiple
    computers or multiple users need to connect to the host at the same time and
    access the VMs.
     
    SaGS, Sep 12, 2009
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