Windows Vista and Virtual PC 2004

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by Robert Moir, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. Robert Moir

    Robert Moir Guest

    Robert Moir, Jul 29, 2005
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  2. Good link. Nicely laid out.

    OK, maybe it only took me 11 hours. :)

    A little off topic, but I am impressed with the performance of Vista x64 on
    my 64bit box. If the beta 1 is this fast, I can't wait to see the rtm.
    (And yes, I am posting from OE6 in Vista x64).
     
    Colin Barnhorst \(MVP\), Jul 30, 2005
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  3. Robert Moir

    Robert Comer Guest

    A little off topic, but I am impressed with the performance of Vista x64
    It's not stellar on a P4 2.6Mhz machine, but it's usable... (not in a VM
    either at the moment.)
     
    Robert Comer, Jul 30, 2005
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  4. It is NOT necessary to boot a Windows 98 floppy image and run Windows 98
    FDISK.

    When first booting the Vista DVD (doubly emulated image via Daemon-tools),
    one of the questions it asks is where to do the install. When you choose
    the brand new uninitialized virtual hard disk, one of the options is to
    create a new partition in it. Do so. Then you have to do a virtual reboot.
    Do so. Then choose the brand new initialized partition, format, and
    install.

    I found 384MB of RAM enough to install without thrashing the pagefile.

    This experience is with retail 32-bit only.
     
    Norman Diamond, Aug 1, 2005
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  5. I managed to get a Vista installation up and running on VPC2004. It's taken
    me a little over 6 hours to get it to a "pretty" and "usable" stage.
    The installation to first boot was quite quick, only took 3 hours to do that.
    It took me another 3 hours of messing to get from the 8-bit display with no
    networking to a full color display with networking. For some reason it
    wouldn't pick up an IP address properly using a virtual adapter not NAT or
    local. It just rebooted and restarted VPC, un-binded and re-binded the VPC
    service on the host PC and it worked, rather odd.

    To get the display drivers working I first tried sharing the host pc's INF
    folder and asking Vista to get its drivers from there which it wouldn't have.
    It properly identified the driver needed but kept telling me that the
    installation failed and was user aborted.
    I then read Robert's Blog which prompted me to install VPC Additions, and
    everything was perfect.

    The host PC is:
    Windows XP Professional SP2
    3.2ghz P4 HT
    1.5gb ram
    180gb SATA hard drive
    Radion 9800 Pro AGP gfx

    The guest (vista) has:
    VPC2004, 300mb RAM, dynamic hard drive image on the host's drive.

    Had two "glitches" in setup: I lost the ability to type anything with the
    keyboard, no key response at all, had to close setup and re-start. The
    second, not sure if this is a glitch or not: I partitioned and formatted the
    hard drive, rebooted, it continued to tell me the partition was 'unavailable'
    until I rebooted for a second time. Lots of people are reporting use a key
    combination to bring up a command prompt and format using command tools not
    the in-built setup tool?
     
    Lawrence Stromski, Aug 1, 2005
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  6. Robert Moir

    Robert Comer Guest

    I too got it up and running in a VM, a bit less time, but I first installed
    it on a bare machine to figure things out.
    I think this is an issue with VPC itself, it happens to me occasionally. (in
    other OS's)
    Having played with the pre-beta, I didn't even give this a chance, I booted
    with a Win98 floppy image, partitioned and formatted as FAT there, then
    started the Vista install -- then the only thing you have to do is format it
    as NTFS with the Vista install -- I didn't have any problems that required
    rebooting.
     
    Robert Comer, Aug 1, 2005
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  7. Retail 32bit what?

     
    Colin Barnhorst, Aug 1, 2005
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  8. OK. Both Windows Vista AND Virtual PC 2004 are retail 32bit versions in the
    cases reported in this subthread.
     
    Norman Diamond, Aug 1, 2005
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  9. Robert Moir

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.virtualpc news group, =?Utf-8?B?
    This is covered specifically in the Longhorn/Vista release notes.

    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
    http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
    "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
    survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
    computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
    labeled as such."
    Ray Shea
     
    Paul Adare, Aug 1, 2005
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  10. I'm sure you mean the MSDN version of Vista, which calls the product key a
    "retail key," because of course there is no retail availability of Vista.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Aug 2, 2005
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  11. I mean the MSDN Retail build of Vista because the MSDN Checked build of
    Vista doesn't install for me, as reported in another thread.
     
    Norman Diamond, Aug 2, 2005
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  12. Also, it's a retail build as opposed to a VL build.
     
    Richard Gadsden, Aug 2, 2005
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  13. Robert Moir

    rpetruni Guest

    This could be VPC problem. If it happens again try pressing CTRL+ALT (left
    alt). It happens to me all the time if i'm using Croatian keyboard and press
    some "strange" key combinations ;-). After pressing CTRL+ALT it works like a
    baby :)).
    Did not installed Vista yet :-( (i'm downloading the image at the moment),
    but the key combination in "older" Windows was SHIFT+F10 to bring up the
    command prompt (only during GUI part of setup)

    Robert
     
    rpetruni, Aug 6, 2005
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  14. Robert Moir

    Jeff Patton Guest

    I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers here, but I installed Vista Beta1 on
    Pentium III with 512mb RAM in WAY under 6hrs. Then I configured a Virtual PC
    with default settings, using 256mb of RAM and while it was longer than an XP
    install it was still under 2hrs, in fact I timed it and I would have to check
    my blog, but as I recall it was exactly 1hr and 40min for the complete
    install. The Virtual PC was completely usable once the VM additions were
    installed. I also had the exact same luck installed Longhorn Core, and
    Longhorn Server.

    To take it up a notch I then used Norton Ghost to image the Virtual PC from
    another Virtual PC, put that image on my 2003 Server, and imaged my laptop
    with that image.
     
    Jeff Patton, Aug 21, 2005
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  15. Robert Moir

    Ron Guest

    Can you expand on how you where able to get the networking working. I have
    been trying different things with out success.
     
    Ron, Sep 15, 2005
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