windows vista antivirus programs !!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by cameccas, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. cameccas

    Kayman Guest

    <snip>

    Firewall LeakTesting.
    Excerpts:
    Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless."
    Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,...
    Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest

    anymore?"
    Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine,
    because you..."
    Leo: "You can't test enough".
    Steve: "Well, yeah.
    Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you
    can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially
    worthless."

    Read and/or listen to the entire conversation here:
    http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-105.htm
     
    Kayman, Jul 28, 2008
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    Milo Guest

    I would stand neurtral on such

    Choose from these names:
    Onecare / BitDefender / Kaspersky / TrendMicro

    The following are the only names I would trust
     
    Milo, Jul 28, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    I will watch the sites and ask again later then.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Jul 28, 2008
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    +Bob+ Guest

    I might take exception to that. I used to consult at a major computer
    manufacturer ($20b+ in sales). The corporate standard was to use
    Norton. I often brought in hardware when I was there. One day I
    noticed a serious speed difference in network copying between the
    Norton encrusted systems and my own. So, we did some testing. We used
    very strict and repetitive test conditions on their Norton bound
    systems. The end result was that having Norton turned on during
    network copies slowed the copies by a factor of about 22 times.

    We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
    bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
    had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
    to think it would matter to customers.

    I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
    the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
    their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.
     
    +Bob+, Jul 29, 2008
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    +Bob+ Guest

    You left out any you trust. I think you meant to write "AVG".
     
    +Bob+, Jul 29, 2008
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    Morton Guest

    Hi,

    Taking the advice of several posters, I downloaded Avast, and then
    deleted Norton 360 with the Norton Removal Tool. My computer now runs
    much faster than before, a major improvement. Free is also nice.

    Thanks for the good advice.

    Morton Linder
     
    Morton, Jul 29, 2008
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    Kayman Guest

    you seem to be pretty up-to-date, got any more tales to tell? Zzzzzzzzzz
     
    Kayman, Jul 29, 2008
    #27

  8. Yes, I understand the same thing. I have no personal experience with
    the corporate version of Norton, but I've heard good things about it
    too.

    I was referring only to the retail version, which is what almost
    everyone here means when they talk about their anti-virus software.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jul 29, 2008
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    Kayman Guest

    Yes, you're right. My reponse was probably too trivial; Sorry about that.
     
    Kayman, Jul 30, 2008
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    +Bob+ Guest

    Perhaps you can't read between the lines. Let me help you out: The
    point is that any company that would have this kind of major flaw in
    their software for years and leave it unfixed has no concern for the
    customers, even their (most important) corporate customers. Their only
    concern was to document it as "known issue".

    If you want to business with a company with those policies, go for it.
    You can let us know which flaws you find in the latest version. I'll
    go with a product without known serious flaws.
     
    +Bob+, Jul 30, 2008
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  11. I have to concur. At the Hospice I support, I "upgraded" to Symantec CE.
    The first thing that struck you was that a client scan basically took
    over the machine. The employee basically had a useless machine until it
    finished.

    The console was horrible and difficult to use with very limited options.
    I also found that just about any update virtually required a reinstall
    and pushing out new client code. Not a pretty sight.... :-(

    We ended up switching to Sophos End Point Security and never looked
    back. If anyone wants, I can discuss it, but since the OP seemed
    interested in personal AV software, not Corporate...

    --

    Regards,
    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services
     
    Hank Arnold (MVP), Jul 30, 2008
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    Kayman Guest

    Well, I was never trained reading between the lines...
    ....and at my age I am not really interested.

    <snip for brevity>

    Read my original response to the original poster, this may (or may not)
    give you some idea where I coming from.
     
    Kayman, Jul 31, 2008
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    Brittany D Guest

    I agree with Ken Blake on this one. Personally I just switched over to Avast
    and it is an incredibly accurate product. Free to boot!! And does not slow
    down my computer one bit, even when scanning the HDD and I have it on
    'thorough scan'.

    I also use Ad-Aware (free version) and love it. I've not had any problems
    with spyware, malware, viruses or adware since using these products.

    Much luck to you!

    Brittany D
     
    Brittany D, Aug 6, 2008
    #33
  14. Don't depend on only one. I really don't like Ad-Aware myself. It
    seems to be overly sensitive about "tracking cookies".
     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 6, 2008
    #34

  15. By the way, one of my favorite features of Avast is that you can set
    it to scan automatically whenever your screen saver comes on, so you
    never have to actually initiate a scan yourself. I mention this only
    in case you're not aware of it.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Aug 6, 2008
    #35
  16. Is periodic scanning really necessary given Avast's real-time
    protection?

     
    Paul Montgomery, Aug 6, 2008
    #36
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    kemo Guest

    Hmm, try NOD 32 antivirus with Spybot installed, I don't think, you wil
    get "infected" with some kind of virus, spyware and so on... thats m
    combination and my system is clear, fresh and fast..

    PS

    Every day are ppl coming to our company to reinstall their OS to Win X
    or Vista, and every time they told me and pleased me to DON'T instal
    McAfee and other bullsh*t (sorry for that word) to their laptops o
    desktop PCs, I tried this stuff one TIME, and it was at last I ever di
    that, this kind of software really smash your system..

    :)

    // kem
     
    kemo, Aug 8, 2008
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    Flight Guest

    Do it more simple and cheaper: Avira Security Suite asks half of the price
    others ask and scores always very good in test bulletins: it always belongs
    to the first three, and is simple to install.
     
    Flight, Aug 9, 2008
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    swalkerco Guest

    DON"T BUY WINDOWS LIVE ONECARE. I Tried it and it ground my computer to a
    halt. That thing is a resource pig and made my performance worse and it got
    so bad that I immediately uninstalled it!
     
    swalkerco, Nov 7, 2008
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    Gordon Guest


    I didn't get the slow-down, but I did get a stupid thing that immediately it
    ran the "tune-up" function, it told me there were critical updates missing,
    when in fact there weren't. What it REALLY meant was, not that there were
    critical updates missing but that there were SOME updates missing. (I had
    hidden hardware driver updates as I get these from the vendor...) so I
    binned it....stupid program....
     
    Gordon, Nov 7, 2008
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