Windows Vista (Build 5308 CTP) is Bloatware.

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Kevin John Panzke, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. I just ran a Microsoft Defender Full Scan on Windows Vista (Build 5308 CTP)
    and it turns out that I have almost a Full 150,000 Objects on my computer
    (Spyware Free).
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Apr 25, 2006
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    Paul Johnson Guest

    Anybody could have told you any recent version of Windows is bloated by
    comparing it to other operating systems. Debian still ships with a 386
    with 32 MB of RAM as minimum requirements (and I work with some hardware
    that barely meets those requirements, with no intention of replacing them
    anytime soon...we're about to get eaten alive on licensing costs for a
    different set of hardware that needs a newer version of Windows for
    $SPECIALTY_PROG from a vendor we don't pull enough weight with to get
    exactly what we need, so the 386s get to stay in play for another
    generation...).
     
    Paul Johnson, Apr 25, 2006
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  3. Please define "bloatware" in the context of a beta
    operating system....

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    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows - Shell/User

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    | I just ran a Microsoft Defender Full Scan on Windows Vista (Build 5308 CTP)
    | and it turns out that I have almost a Full 150,000 Objects on my computer
    | (Spyware Free).
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Apr 25, 2006
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  4. Bloatware means that it is so heavy it does not float, and that it blows (or
    sucks, the direction is relative).
    If you combine those 2 words
    Float+Blows= Bloat
    the "ware" means it is a program or group of code.
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 25, 2006
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  5. Another definition might be given using Einstein's theory of space time.

    BLOAT = Bend Light Or/Also Time

    Only immensely massive objects can do this, like a star that has collapsed
    under its own weight creating a gravitational pull not even light can
    escape.
    Or Microsoft Vista trying to push the whole hardware market out of
    slumbering sales by artificially skyrocketing the hardware requiems of PC's.

    Now all you have to do is combine that hard science with some mystery and
    paranormal:

    The "ware" addition to the word comes from myths of "ware"wolves and
    vampires,
    and is added to remind us that MS is here to suck your blood and life energy
    with ghoulishly things like DRM, WPA and EULA.
    Definitions of those dastardly things on my next post, although from the
    sound of them I am sure you know they are hideous.
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 25, 2006
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  6. Update: I ran a Virus Scan (using Avast 4.7 Home Edition) and it Scanned
    almost a Full 130,000 Files (Virus Free), so it is definitely Bloatware.
     
    Kevin John Panzke, Apr 25, 2006
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  7. Hardware requiems! Are they as good as those of Mozart & Brahms?
    That's "werewolves". I see your system isn't bloated with a dictionary
    or a spellchecker.
     
    Mike Williams, Apr 25, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    What did you expect? With all the added features that are going to be in
    Vista, I would have to say it should be a bigger program. I for one, am
    looking forward to this version.

    --
    Jason

    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

    MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
     
    Jason, Apr 25, 2006
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    Ed Dixon Guest

    Some percentage of the new features announced for Vista are not included
    yet.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 25, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    Some are not accessable. I am sure that the code is somewhere in there, but
    MS has not made it accessable. Also look at all the added things. UAP,
    major change with Windows Mail (seach, spam), Windows Defender, Parental
    Controls, Glass features. Those are just some that I can think of right
    now.

    --
    Jason

    Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
    Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

    http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

    MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
     
    Jason, Apr 25, 2006
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    Ed Dixon Guest

    Thus far, I see most of those as steps backwards. The things that seem to
    make the most difference (like Windows defender) as available as free
    downloads for earlier versions of windows. Same for many third party tools
    that do that same kind of other things much better.

    Ed
     
    Ed Dixon, Apr 25, 2006
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  12. Update: I ran a Virus Scan (using Avast 4.7 Home Edition) and it Scanned
    I'm curious...how many files are allowed before Your Holiness considers it
    bloatware?
     
    Homer J. Simpson, Apr 25, 2006
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  13. Im a peirs anthony fan...
    Its warewolves when talking about software.

    the "requiems" is BECAUSE of the spell checker....

    Your attitude is noted.
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 25, 2006
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  14. I'm sure he prefers Piers.
    Blaming one's misconfigured tools ...tch tch.
    I think you mean "notable".
     
    Mike Williams, Apr 25, 2006
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  15. Are you a MVP?
     
    John Jay Smith, Apr 25, 2006
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    Test Man Guest

    So it's got more files than the previous version. Of course it does, it
    does more than XP! You're stating the obvious here, but number of files
    doesn't automatically make it bloatware.
     
    Test Man, Apr 26, 2006
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