WIndows XP/Vista Networking.

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Bob, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. Bob

    Bob Guest

    I know there has been a lot of posts on this subject, but none that have
    helped me so my apologies if this is redundent of past posts.

    I just bought a new Vista Home Premium HP laptop. Got it on release day, Jan
    30. It refuses to see any XP computers on the network.

    I have internet access, it works on the vista laptop, but cant see any
    non-Vista computers on the network its accessing the internet through.

    I tried installing the LLTP protocol on one of the XP computers..no go.
    I tried taking down the firewalls..still no luck
    All computers are in the same workgroup
    Network discovery is on and all the file/printer/media sharing buttons are on.
    XP computers are XP Pro.
    tried connecting through different lines/wireless routers on the same
    network(I am in a fraternity house and we have 3 wireless routers all
    connecting to the same base network/internet router.)
    The XP computers can see my vista machine, however.

    One of my brothers was a Beta tester for Vista and has been running vista
    for some time. He has ultimate and can see everyone,(even the XP Pro comps) I
    can see him, and he can see me, but I cannot see the other computers. He has
    taken a look at my laptop and is just as confused as i am in this matter. He
    has no idea why my Vista laptop wont work.

    Thanks for any help
    Bob
     
    Bob, Feb 2, 2007
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    Genius Guest

    That's the same problem I am currently encountering.
    Same version of Vista - Windows Vista Home Premiium.
    I bought the laptop Jan.30 with the company supplier of Aspire 5610 series.

    I have 1 network at home, with workgroup seted same on all my pc's.

    I have spent over 8 hours oover the last few days trying to figure out the
    probelm, and it haas brought to my attention that buying windows vista was a
    bad choice.


    I hope this problem could be solved ASAP. It is driving me crazy because I
    have a presentation next monday, and I need to use this new Vista laptop - my
    only laptop to do the presentation. The presentation is on my desktop, and I
    don't have any usb flash drives.
     
    Genius, Feb 2, 2007
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    Tammy Guest

    I also bought an HP notebook on January 30, (with Vista Home Premium) and
    have been trying ever since to install a network printer. I'm logged onto
    the network to the extent that I can access network programs, and the
    internet works. But, the new Vista notebook cannot see any other computers
    or printers. As long as I never need to print anything, I guess I'm in good
    shape!
    I've checked all of the obvious things, (workgroup name the same, sharing
    turned on, etc) but since the setup screens for the networking are all so
    much different, I must be missing something everytime.
     
    Tammy, Feb 2, 2007
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  4. Bob

    Genius Guest

    I FOUND THE SOLUTION BY MYSELF!

    I was browsing through many forums and windows help and support program and
    microsoft windows vista tech center, finally with luck would have it, the
    solution is here.

    http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8eb8-45af-b063-4f50f5a77b291033.mspx?mfr=true


    Just go to here, and you need to install a software on Win XP to enable LLTD
    Responder that allows Win XP to respond to Windows Vista.
     
    Genius, Feb 2, 2007
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  5. Bob

    Genius Guest

    Dear Bob,
    If you are using Norton or any other firewalls, turn it off, norton
    firewalls are blocking network access as well.

    That should work. Try a few times.

    My Laptop came with norton, and when I disabld norton web browsing section,
    everything worked.

    Good Luck~! Bon Courage
     
    Genius, Feb 2, 2007
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    Tabz Guest

    THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!! AND THANK YOU AGAIN :)

    I'm NOT loosing my mind (how comforting!)

    Tabz :)
     
    Tabz, Feb 2, 2007
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  7. Bob

    Bob Guest

    Thank you so much!!!! IT was Norton( I had already done the LLTP thing.) my
    comp came with Norton and I didnt even think to check it....turning of
    Norton's Firewall worked!!! thanks again I appreciate it

    Bob
     
    Bob, Feb 3, 2007
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    laurieg Guest

    I did this and now the vista computer recognizes the xp laptop, but laptop
    still will not see printer. can you help me know what to do on the laptop
     
    laurieg, Feb 3, 2007
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    hydro1956 Guest

    Having sharing allowed and all the other required share/network settings
    correct in Vista and XP machines I could not access Vista shared
    foldews/printers from XP machines, however vice-versa I could. Now, after
    three days I found the solution:

    My Visata machine came with McAfee antivirus preloaded. Both the Windows and
    McAfee firewalls were on. As soon as I disabled the McAfee firewall the
    network sharing worked as intended!

    Doing a little follow-up research, I then turned off Windows firewall and
    re-enabled the McAfee firewall, as well as changed the security level setting
    in McAfee. At this point I was back to the "no-access" problem so I disabled
    McAfee firewall and re-enabled Windows firewall. The network worked like a
    carm once again. Now I assume there is an exception check box like "Allow
    network folder/pinter sharing" in McAfee's firewall like there is in windows
    firewall if you are wanting to use McAfee's firewall instead. Also, this may
    be the same issue if you have some other another firewall enabled.
     
    hydro1956, Feb 3, 2007
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  10. The LLTD Responder is absolutely NOT REQUIRED for pre-Vista Windows
    computers to interact with Vista via Windows Networking.

    The LLTD responder is only needed if you want pre-Vista computers to be
    properly placed in the Network Map window - the document at
    http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8eb8-45af-b063-4f50f5a77b291033.mspx?mfr=true
    only discusses and only applies to, the Network Map feature in Vista,. not
    any other networking capability.

    If you can not access folder or printer shares on Vista computers from a
    pre-Vista computer, or vice-versa, the problem is not the lack of the LLTD
    Responder, it's something else.

    You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network
    Connection's properties:

    1. right click the Network icon in the Notification Area
    2. click Network and Sharing Center
    3. click Manage network connections
    4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this
    may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO)
    5. make sure that File Sharing is On
    6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off
    7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to
    use, make sure Printer Sharing is On
    8. click Manage network connections (left pane)
    9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is
    in use - e.g. a wireless connection)
    10. select Properties
    11. click Continue in the UAC prompt (or supply Administrative username and
    password)
    12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
    13. click Properties
    14. click Advanced...
    14. select the WINS tab
    15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button
    16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect
    immediately - no need to logoff or restart

    Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you
    don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed
     
    Bruce Sanderson, Feb 4, 2007
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    Kevin Guest

    I tried most everything in this fourm and my vista machine can not ping my xp
    machine, but at least my xp machine shows up in my network.

    I spend all day and still no luck.


    Kevin
     
    Kevin, Feb 4, 2007
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  12. Bob

    Kevin Guest

    here is the error code I get:

    Error code 0x80070035 Network path was not found

    Kevin
     
    Kevin, Feb 4, 2007
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  13. Kevin: I'm trying to reproduce your problem here and thus hopefully help you
    out, but I'm missing some vital information.

    1. is your XP computer running XP Home or XP Professional?
    2. do you have Service Pack 2 installed on the XP computer?
    3. what exactly does "xp machine shows up in my network" mean - where does
    it "show up"?
    4. what steps do you take to get the Error code 0x80070035 Network path was
    not found?

    5. If your XP computer has Service Pack 2 installed, check in the Windows
    Firewall, Exceptions - does the File and Print Sharing item have a check
    mark? If not, add a check mark, close the Firewall dialog box, then try
    again from the Vista computer. If the File and Print Sharing exception is
    disabled, the XP computer may not even respond to ping requests.

    --
    Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
    http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

    It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
     
    Bruce Sanderson, Feb 6, 2007
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    DON Guest

    Well as Others Ive lost all Home networked printers and share drives, In Xp
    it all worked fine after the upgrade to vista Guess what I can see the XP
    Computer but can not access a shared drive or shared printers, after a three
    day try I fill like Im doing something wrong, Xp Computer can not see the
    Vista computer either, The error tells me its dsn, But Im running a cable and
    can see the modem fine, Yes vista can see the WWW and check email fine, but
    as for the rest a little help
     
    DON, Feb 7, 2007
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    JKS Guest

    I can not use my wireless printer and I tried solution below but it did not
    help? As did previous people, I picked my computer up Jan 30 and haven't been
    able to print since... I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance...

    Jeri
     
    JKS, Feb 11, 2007
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    Roger B Guest

    I had a similar problem with my Vista laptop being unable to connect to my
    XP desktop. Another post somewhere in the Microsoft forums suggested
    enabling NetBIOS on the Vista machine (it's in the advanced settings of the
    TCP/IPv4 protocol, under the WINS tab). That did the trick for me.

    Roger B
     
    Roger B, Feb 13, 2007
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    DON Guest

    Thank you Bruce for ideals to check, One advice was to remove netbios from
    the xp computer and a few other option. I tried what you asked and It still
    doesnt work, Im seeing the xp home computer in the vista map fine but still
    have a access issue both ways, Im still open for ideals, Im running two
    systems connected to a hub, File sharing and printsharing is on the xp
    computer, usb hard drive, usb printer and a lpt1 print both hps. a hard wired
    network, I have even tried my laptop, but Im sure it will work fine because
    its still xp
     
    DON, Feb 15, 2007
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    GLM71 Guest

    I had a similar problem with not being able to access Vista folders from Xp
    machine, and running NIS 2007. I discovered that Norton was not the problem,
    but a setting in the share properties.

    1. Right click the Vista folder to share and Select share.
    2. In the drop down box select All (everyone in this list) click add then
    click share.
    3. Also make sure Norton Firewall rulkes are set to allow all for Windows
    File Sharing.

    This worked for me wihout uninstalling or turning anything in Norton off!
     
    GLM71, Feb 23, 2007
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    kanjana Guest

    After all the window vista recommended set up, I still had to go into Norton to allow port 137-139 for all my local IPs to get all working.
    Now I am trying to get my friend's window vista that come with McAfee to do the same, but still have no luck.

    EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
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    kanjana, Mar 8, 2007
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    gooner Guest

    I had a problem connecting to a shared printer on an xp XP machine.Came
    across this little gem which worked a treat.



    Had the same issue and found the following solution. First install the
    driver off Samsung's website with out the printer connected. Once it is
    installed, go to the printer's properties and take note of the port that
    it is assigned. Mine was LPT1. Then in a command prompt enter the
    following:

    net use LPT1: \\host\printer /persistent:yes

    It should then reply "The command completed successfully". This command
    redirects the LPT1 port and directs it to \\host\printer. You should be
    able to print to network printer now.

    If you want more info, google: Capture Printer Port
     
    gooner, Mar 8, 2007
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