WLM on laptop?

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Neil Turkenkopf, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Hi folks!

    I have a silly question to ask, so here goes...

    I just got a new laptop (my first) and was wondering if I could install WLM
    on it and Import all my "stuff" from my PC?
    My gut instinct is telling me that it IS possible, but I wouldn't even know
    where to start.
    If this *might* work, would they both be in sync? (Folders, Message Rules,
    etc.)

    As always, thanks in advance!

    - -
    Neil ¦¬D
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    Neil Turkenkopf, Mar 8, 2014
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  2. Neil Turkenkopf

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Neil.

    I'm not the best guy to answer this question, but the answer is YES. I did
    it only once and that was years ago, but it is quite possible. Winston
    should be along soon to fill in details.

    The basic idea is to have the laptop download and install WLM (by whatever
    name MS is using this week) from:
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-live/essentials-other#essentials=mailother

    Then use WLM to subscribe to all your email and news accounts, just as you
    did on your desktop. On BOTH computers, set each Mail account to "Leave a
    copy of messages on server". On ONE computer (probably the desktop), set it
    to Remove from the server after _x_ days, filling in a number that will give
    you a while to download the messages to the other computer before the server
    deletes them. If you never delete them, you'll eventually run out of
    storage space on the server. This doesn't exactly "sync" the two
    installations, but it downloads the same stuff on both. You'll still have
    to mark messages as Read on each.

    Microsoft's WET (Windows Easy Transfer) can help with moving many of your
    tweaks and settings; run it once on the desktop to export to something like
    a thumb drive and then again from the laptop - AFTER you've installed WLM on
    it - to import from there. But BE SURE to remember your passwords; they
    won't transfer automatically and you'll have to re-enter them. And I don't
    recall if WET moves Folders and Rules.

    Let us know how this works out for you, Neil. I could use a
    reminder/refresher myself.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
    Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3522.0110) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
    Center


    "Neil Turkenkopf" wrote in message news:lffivs$622$...

    Hi folks!

    I have a silly question to ask, so here goes...

    I just got a new laptop (my first) and was wondering if I could install WLM
    on it and Import all my "stuff" from my PC?
    My gut instinct is telling me that it IS possible, but I wouldn't even know
    where to start.
    If this *might* work, would they both be in sync? (Folders, Message Rules,
    etc.)

    As always, thanks in advance!

    - -
    Neil ¦¬D
    - -
     
    R. C. White, Mar 8, 2014
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  3. >"Neil Turkenkopf" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    >news:lffivs$622$...


    >I just got a new laptop (my first) and was wondering if I could
    >install WLM on it and Import all my "stuff" from my PC?
    >My gut instinct is telling me that it IS possible, but I wouldn't
    >even know where to start.
    >If this *might* work, would they both be in sync? (Folders, Message
    >Rules, etc.)



    I did this several times in the past and the good news is: YES it
    works. But there are different approaches, very much also depending on
    what types of accounts you use.

    Obviously the cleanest way is to download and install WLM on the
    laptop, manually add all accounts and then export <---> import
    everything else.

    There is a more dirty but simpler war that (at least im my case)
    worked fine several times:

    The WLM STORE folder litually contains EVERYTHING that WLM manages -
    all account data, all locally stored folders, calendars, newsgroups
    .... everything except the passwords.

    So what you can do is the following and here is how i did it.

    1.
    On your new laptop, download and install WindowsEssentials from
    Microsoft (ichoose "select programs" and then WindowsLiveMail).

    2.
    Go to your old computer where you want to export everything.
    Look for the place where WindowsLiveMail's store folder sits.
    You can see this by dropping down the menu on the left, then
    Options ---> eMail ---> more ---> Makntainance
    (sorry if i don't know the exact description names of the tabs, but i
    am using the GERMAN language version of WLM).

    In maintainance, you then see "store folder" and its path - write it
    down.
    Probably something like
    c:\user\youruser\appdata\local\microsoft\windowslivemail\

    3.
    Then use some file browser or anything you like to copy all the
    contents of this folder onto an external hard drive, USB stick or
    anything you like.

    4.
    Now go to your new laptog and open WLM, also write down the path of
    the wlm store folder.
    And then C L O S E W L M !!! (important! Do not leave it
    open!)

    5.
    Connect the media where you copiet your old computer's store folder to
    the new laptop and copy the contents into the location of the store
    folder on the new laptop.


    And when everything is done --- finally oben WLM and voilà -
    everything should be there!


    However -- you will have to type in all the passwords of all your
    accounts, and leave WLM running for a while as it does some index
    writing etc.

    I did it this way several times with many accounts installed and it
    always worked.
    Presumably on both machines you should have the same latest versions
    of WLM.

    good luck, hope the ruppy discription helps.

    greetings from Vienna

    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, Mar 8, 2014
    #3
  4. Neil Turkenkopf wrote:
    > Hi folks!
    >
    > I have a silly question to ask, so here goes...
    >
    > I just got a new laptop (my first) and was wondering if I could install
    > WLM on it and Import all my "stuff" from my PC?
    > My gut instinct is telling me that it IS possible, but I wouldn't even
    > know where to start.
    > If this *might* work, would they both be in sync? (Folders, Message
    > Rules, etc.)
    >
    > As always, thanks in advance!
    >
    > - -
    > Neil ¦¬D
    > - -


    Roland and RC provided some routes.
    My preference when going from one pc to another is to use a methodical
    approach with WLM's built-in features

    1. Export Email accounts and Newsgroup Servers to an iaf file
    2. Export Messages to a blank folder (created by the user on a
    usb/external drive in Windows Explorer
    3. Export Contacts to vcf files in another blank folder on the same
    usb/external device
    4. Install the same version of WLM on the new machine
    5. Open WLM and ignore any prompts to setup anything (email accounts)
    - it is appropriate at this time to determine if you wish to operate
    WLM in signon or not sign on mode...since it will impact which contacts
    database is used (local only or local/sync with web UI - each is unique)
    6. Configure WLM
    - Uncheck both - Send/Receive at Startup and Check every x minutes
    7. Import Email accounts from the iaf files
    - access each account and enter password (WLM doesn't export or
    import pw's)
    8. Import messages to WLM's Storage folders
    - import will place folders/subfolders/messages by account in a
    Storage folders/Imports Folders
    9. Open Windows Explorer in separate windowto C:\users\<windows
    logon>\Contacts
    - On the toolbar click Import and choose the vcf option to import all
    vcf contacts into Users\...\Contacts. (Use Control A to select all vcf
    files)
    - importing vcf files will create a unique *.contact for each vcf file
    in the users\..\contacts folder
    10. Import those *.contacts into into WLM using WLM's import wizard.

    (Note: Step 9 and 10 above are a personal preference of mine but it
    can be done differently
    9. Access WLM's Contact mode and just import the previously saved vcf
    files into WLM's Contacts (use Control A to select all)
    10. (this step would not be necessary)

    11. Configure WLM settings to one's preference, test email accounts
    12. If desired, copy not move folders and messages in Imported Folders
    from applicable email account (in Imported folders) to applicable email
    account in WLM.
    13. Import Newsgroup servers iaf files and setup subscribed newsgroups.
    14. If you also wish to have the same contacts in the opposite operating
    mode (sign in/sign out) just switch to the other mode and repeat the
    import from vcf or users\..\contacts.

    For rules, I recreate them anew.


    Fyi...during any import or copy one should consider that WLM will have
    to write the data to its message store and update its index....thus it
    is important to not interrupt the process especially if the quantity of
    messages imported/copied is large/significant
    - why ? To prevent corruption of the index by shutting down WLM
    prematurely.




    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp consumer apps
     
    ...winston‫, Mar 9, 2014
    #4
  5. To RC, Roland, and Winston.....

    Wow, you guys are amazing!
    Thank you *all* for the different and detailed answers to my questions!

    It's going to take a while for me to absorb all this info,
    but it's very encouraging to know that I *can* do this at all!

    Thanks again, and I'll definitely let you know when/if I have success.

    - -
    Neil ¦¬D
    - -





    "Neil Turkenkopf" wrote in message news:lffivs$622$...

    Hi folks!

    I have a silly question to ask, so here goes...

    I just got a new laptop (my first) and was wondering if I could install WLM
    on it and Import all my "stuff" from my PC?
    My gut instinct is telling me that it IS possible, but I wouldn't even know
    where to start.
    If this *might* work, would they both be in sync? (Folders, Message Rules,
    etc.)

    As always, thanks in advance!

    - -
    Neil ¦¬D
    - -
     
    Neil Turkenkopf, Mar 9, 2014
    #5
  6. You're welcome.

    Just one final note...regarding exporting contacts.
    WLM's export contacts to csv is limited since it doesn't export all
    possible data entered/available in a given contact. Export to vcf is
    more robust and all-inclusive (and more robust and consistent).


    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp consumer apps


    Neil Turkenkopf wrote:
    > To RC, Roland, and Winston.....
    >
    > Wow, you guys are amazing!
    > Thank you *all* for the different and detailed answers to my questions!
    >
    > It's going to take a while for me to absorb all this info,
    > but it's very encouraging to know that I *can* do this at all!
    >
    > Thanks again, and I'll definitely let you know when/if I have success.


    > - -
     
    ...winston‫, Mar 9, 2014
    #6
  7. Thanks again Winston!
    - -
    Neil ¦¬D
    - -


    ""...winston‫"" wrote in message news:lfiphe$ii5$...

    You're welcome.

    Just one final note...regarding exporting contacts.
    WLM's export contacts to csv is limited since it doesn't export all
    possible data entered/available in a given contact. Export to vcf is
    more robust and all-inclusive (and more robust and consistent).


    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp consumer apps


    Neil Turkenkopf wrote:
    > To RC, Roland, and Winston.....
    >
    > Wow, you guys are amazing!
    > Thank you *all* for the different and detailed answers to my questions!
    >
    > It's going to take a while for me to absorb all this info,
    > but it's very encouraging to know that I *can* do this at all!
    >
    > Thanks again, and I'll definitely let you know when/if I have success.


    > - -
     
    Neil Turkenkopf, Mar 10, 2014
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