WMP 11: The worst thing ever.

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by Akashhhhh, Nov 5, 2006.

  1. Akashhhhh

    Akashhhhh Guest

    Seriously, who the hell let this crap product out? Has MS decided to skip out
    on QA or something?

    I cannot believe how BROKEN the playlist mechanic is. This player does
    everything right except PLAY MUSIC. I would LOVE for someone on the WMP team
    to explain the mentality behind how playlists work. Basically, it is
    impossible for me to double click items to add them to "now playing." Fine, I
    can deal with that. But how the hell do you PLAY a new playlist without
    saving it first? I can add 10 songs to a list and it refuses to play them in
    succession. Also, lets say I start a playlist and want to skip a song, so I
    double click the song I want to play...well, it just loops that song over and
    over and ignores the rest of the playlist. I am SO frustrated right now.
    Microsoft, I'm usually there to defend you, but WMP 11 = CRAP.
     
    Akashhhhh, Nov 5, 2006
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  2. Akashhhhh

    Dale Guest

    Add to the list of serious reductions in usability - You used to be able to
    add a whole list of songs to the Now Playing list and then select them all,
    right click, and open them all in Advanced Tag Editor.

    Now, you can only edit songs in your library - not just any song you have on
    your disk. Also, you can't edit from Now Playing. You have to "Find in
    Library" first which means that you can only edit one album at a time, rather
    than editing groups as you want to see them.

    Even worse, when you open a group of files in ATE, you can't see the files
    you have opened. No more file list on the left.. no way to re-confirm you
    have the right files or to edit them as a group and edit each file within the
    group individually. Now you edit the common items for the group, close ATE,
    and then open each file individually to edit the unique items. What a big
    pain!!!

    These fixes are too big for even a service pack. So, please, Microsoft.
    Let's have WMP 11.5 really really soon because 11.0 really is bad!
     
    Dale, Nov 5, 2006
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  3. So, what would you guys recommend using in stead of WMP? I mean, you know, it
    does not help to roll back to WMP 10.

    ::RSM
     
    Richard Mitnick, Nov 6, 2006
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  4. You forgot to mention that half of the keyboard shortcuts listed in
    the help file are simply wrong or don't work :p

    For an exercise in pain, try to navigate the player using voice
    recognition in Vista (only for the very patient or very bored ;-0)


    Cheers - Neil
     
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Nov 6, 2006
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  5. Akashhhhh

    Dale Guest

    Well, I was so disatisfied with the usability and user interface for WMP 10,
    and even more so with Media Center 2005, that I researched every media player
    I could find online. None really satisfy me but iTunes is the closest. We
    use iTunes for copying CDs to MP3 and my wife uses iTunes for everyday use.

    I, being more particular (anal?) wrote my own media player calling WMP
    through COM so I could get the simple but useful interface I wanted.

    Originally, I had no intention of building my own library manager because
    WMP did that ok, even if not well. WMP 11, and even more so the Media Center
    in Vista, changed all of that. The UI, library, tag editor, and so on in WMP
    11 and Vista's Media Center are so user un-friendly, I am going to finish out
    my own app with a tag editor and library manager.
     
    Dale, Nov 7, 2006
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  6. Akashhhhh

    Steve-UK Guest

    I think they've oversimplified the UI, it is really annoying. There were
    problems in WMP10 using some of the more advanced things in it, but instead
    of fixing them they simply seem to have removed them and put a fancy-looking
    UI on it that actually has less functionality.

    I do prefer the mini-bar in WMP 11 to version 10 though, the buttons are
    more sensible.

    Also the WMP 11 points to the WMEDP website for "IT Pros" but the WMEDP on
    the site is just the old version for WMP 9 and 10, I tried all afternoon to
    create a working MSI for WMP 11, but no luck yet.
     
    Steve-UK, Nov 7, 2006
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  7. Akashhhhh

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    The directives on design were "simple", and "optimize for the basic user".
    Regardless of your stance on those changes, that's the goal here.

    I think of it as the typical Microsoft cycle of three - WMP7 was the first
    iteration of the new jukebox style, and WMP11 is the first iteration of the
    new evolution.
    You should just need to rename the v11 installer to mpsetup.exe and it
    should just work. If not, create an EDP specific thread with your issues
    instead of adding to this random thread. =)
     
    zachd [MSFT], Nov 7, 2006
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  8. Akashhhhh

    MICROSHIfT Guest

    MS have really misread the market AGAIN... They have had over 10 years to get
    MP right but it always fails to deliver. This takes me back to IE and
    Mozilla... This was a chance for MS to capitalise on a fragmented market and
    deliver a one stop shop - DVD, Video, Online/Offline, Audio (incl MP3, AAC
    and man many other formats). They are seriously competing with Apple but seem
    to have buried their head in the sand again -

    When a product comes that includes all aproporiate codecs (Incl Mpeg 4
    !!!!!) as weell as full Audio and it is capable of phone, portable (PDA)
    Laptop and Desktop function - They will have a tool to access MS domain. -
    Operating System Environment. But they seem too stupid to realise this.

    Why doesnt MP 111 play Mpeg 4, DVD or many many other formats. I'm now using
    a DVD player, MP to play my audio and Quicktime to lay Mpeg 4 files converted
    for PSP and other "portable devices".... This proves they stuffed it !!!!
     
    MICROSHIfT, Nov 7, 2006
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  9. Akashhhhh

    Steve-UK Guest

    That was the first thing I tried, it didn't work.
     
    Steve-UK, Nov 7, 2006
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  10. Akashhhhh

    Sharpie Guest

    I'm sorry that I have to reply with something irrelevant, but, not unlike
    WMP11, their help thing sucks. It won't let me start a new topic!

    Anyways, I'm using WMP 10, cause 11 isn't that good, and the guide thing
    changed. Now, instead of looking up music, it's working like Google. I don't
    know if it's just me, or if Windows is an idiot, and we know which one it
    probably is, but it's just plain stupid. I think that they're crashing the
    lower ones so we have to get WMP11, then we'll have to buy stuff from them.
     
    Sharpie, Nov 9, 2006
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  11. Akashhhhh

    Akashhhhh Guest

    So, no one had a response for me? No one could explain why the playlists work
    the way that they do? This is pretty ridiculous. I don't understand this even
    from a ease-of-use standpoint. It's ridiculously confusing. Something is
    definitely wrong, either I'm missing something entirely or WMP11 never went
    through QA.
     
    Akashhhhh, Nov 14, 2006
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  12. Akashhhhh

    zachd [ms] Guest

    You used TweakMP to change from Play All to Play One (whatever their option
    is). Change that back.
     
    zachd [ms], Nov 15, 2006
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  13. Akashhhhh

    Akashhhhh Guest

    So, I was having so much trouble I decided to uninstall WMP11 with the
    intention of re-installing the latest version...but I started up MP10 for a
    minute, and was so happy that I refuse to go "back to the future." Mp11
    sucks, really, really badly. I don't care if I'm insulting people that put
    time and effort into it, you got it REALLY wrong. The positive reviews are
    from users on a deadline who couldn't use the player for months at a time, as
    I did.

    Fix the playlist mechanic, then we'll talk.
     
    Akashhhhh, Nov 18, 2006
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