WMP 11, UPnP, DLNA... ???

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by dantel, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. dantel

    dantel Guest

    I have a bunch of computers; MCE, XP Home, XP Pro, Macintosh, a NAS running a
    UpnP server, a UPnP audio device, a Viiv server, etc. and have some questions:

    Seems like I am reading that WMP 11 replaced WMC, is this really UPnP
    compliant? a guy at the MS boot at CES seemed to indicate yes but was sketchy
    on details and had many caveots.

    Should WMP 11 see my Viiv server?

    Can WMP be both a client AND server on XP? I was told yes on Vista but got
    puzzled look when asking about on XP.
    - Can I share media from one XP machine and go to another XP machine both
    running WMP 11 and see the shared content in the "client" WMP? there does
    not seem to be any menu for browsing to see other computers or things such as
    Viiv server or a NAS running UPnP.
    Do the new hardware devices from companies like D-Link & Netgear see the
    shared
    items from WMP 11? nobody at CES was really clear about that.
    Any software available that uses a "remote control" TV like interface that
    will see WMP or UPnP "served" content? I picked up a demo copy of the new
    version of Nero and it has a nice interface but it is a little funky when
    accessing content over the network - it needs to "collect" media or run
    something called Nero Scout which I have not figured out yet.

    So many cool products that don't work cool together quite yet!
    I wish there was a Media User Group in the Chicago area!!
     
    dantel, Jan 14, 2007
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  2. WMP11 seems to have broken upnp media sharing, which used to work with WMP10
    and Windows Media Connect 2. Moreover, other Windows based media servers
    have stopped working. I have an Acer 3705 MGW TV with a built in media
    gateway which is now useless. I tried to revert to WMP10 and WMC2, but it
    did not work. I tried to diagnose with Cidero Media Controller, looks like
    WMP does not authorise my devices, despite a correct configuration. I tested
    with no firewalls, and my router supports upnp.

    That's one of the most dirty MS update I have experienced, these guys have
    no sense of QA, they dump half baked updates and let us debug. They should
    open a web site where we could bill them for our wasted time !
     
    garcin lazare, Jan 14, 2007
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  3. dantel

    dantel Guest

    To be fair, I wouldn't call the update dirty or lacking in QA but they really
    missed the boat on this. The guy I spoke with at CES said the questions I
    was asking were beyond what normal users get into - I think they tried to
    over simplify it and as a result lost some "touch and feel" - if it isn't
    working, it is hard to tell why - there isn't a lot of dialog. Also, I spent
    a good deal of time this afternoon playing with three computers running 11
    and I can not get a single one to connect to another as a client which
    contradicts what they told me at CES. I think it may work on Vista machines
    but could not see it there because I think the machines were locked down and
    the dude I was speaking with didn't know the admin pass and couldn't get it
    working or he was just wrong about one computer being able to be a client to
    another or did not understand the question. I am able to get my SMC audio
    thing to log in to several WMP 11's and pull audio though so keep trying with
    your Acer device.
     
    dantel, Jan 15, 2007
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  4. dantel

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    PC to PC sharing is not supported on XP - that's a feature available on
    Vista.
     
    zachd [MSFT], Jan 15, 2007
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  5. It's not built into XP or WMP, but there are some progs which do that. Intel
    tools
    (http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/downloads/upnp/index.htm)
    are an example. If you are a developer source code is available.
     
    garcin lazare, Jan 15, 2007
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  6. dantel

    Dale Guest

    Maybe your devices require album art of 175x175. Microsoft continues to
    provide compatibility with devices who require miniscule album art and I am
    sure they'll restrict the album art for all WMP users to 175x175 if this is
    the case. Compatibility with older devices is the single most important
    issue with the Windows Media Player product team other than simplification
    of the user interface.

    What's that, you say? Your device doesn't care about album art and
    especially its size? I must be mistaken then. Compatibility with older
    devices must not really matter one single twit to the Microsoft Windows
    Media Player product team. I must have been misled.

    Dale
     
    Dale, Jan 15, 2007
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