Works in safe mode but not in standard mode

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by Poormo, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    I did the install of Vista last night and it seem to go without a hitch, no
    error messages. It boots up just fine but as soon as I try to do anything it
    stops responding from the keyboard and the mouse moves REEEAAAALLLLLLYYYYY
    slow as if something is running in the background. The HD light is blinking
    like crazy but I can't do anything. There is an ATI TV card that it says is
    incompatible so I have disabled it but still have the same problem. If I
    start up in safe mode the system runs fine so I'm guessing something is being
    loaded that it doesn't like. The keyboard and mouse are Microsoft wireless
    desktop elite. Anyone have any suggestions? The system is a dual core AMD X2
    4200 with 2gig of memory. SATA HD and DVD and an Nvidia PCIe video card.
     
    Poormo, Apr 23, 2007
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  2. Poormo

    Don Guest

    Probably right. Since you can use the mouse, try right-clicking the
    taskbar and start Task Manager. It will let you see how much CPU each
    process is using, and other interesting info.
     
    Don, Apr 23, 2007
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  3. Hello,
    Try running msconfig in normal mode and choose the diagnostic startup.
    This turns off all the startup programs and services.
    See if that makes a difference.
    It it works, then try adding back in services to help track down whether
    the issue is in services or startup programs.
    If it's a service start adding in the services back in by checking the
    boxes ( I would enable a group at a time and track which ones I enterered)
    It's a process of elimination at this stage to see what it causing this.

    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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    |>I did the install of Vista last night and it seem to go without a hitch,
    no
    |>error messages. It boots up just fine but as soon as I try to do anything
    it
    |>stops responding from the keyboard and the mouse moves
    REEEAAAALLLLLLYYYYY
    |>slow as if something is running in the background. The HD light is
    blinking
    |>like crazy but I can't do anything. There is an ATI TV card that it says
    is
    |>incompatible so I have disabled it but still have the same problem. If I
    |>start up in safe mode the system runs fine so I'm guessing something is
    being
    |>loaded that it doesn't like. The keyboard and mouse are Microsoft
    wireless
    |>desktop elite. Anyone have any suggestions? The system is a dual core AMD
    X2
    |>4200 with 2gig of memory. SATA HD and DVD and an Nvidia PCIe video card.
    |>
     
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Apr 23, 2007
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  4. Poormo

    mikeyhsd Guest

    might check with Control Panel Indexing Options to see if the indexing is complete or still running.
    contrary to mvp opinions, it CAN slow the computer down.







    I did the install of Vista last night and it seem to go without a hitch, no
    error messages. It boots up just fine but as soon as I try to do anything it
    stops responding from the keyboard and the mouse moves REEEAAAALLLLLLYYYYY
    slow as if something is running in the background. The HD light is blinking
    like crazy but I can't do anything. There is an ATI TV card that it says is
    incompatible so I have disabled it but still have the same problem. If I
    start up in safe mode the system runs fine so I'm guessing something is being
    loaded that it doesn't like. The keyboard and mouse are Microsoft wireless
    desktop elite. Anyone have any suggestions? The system is a dual core AMD X2
    4200 with 2gig of memory. SATA HD and DVD and an Nvidia PCIe video card.
     
    mikeyhsd, Apr 24, 2007
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  5. Poormo

    Roedy Green Guest

    Possible culprits:
    indexing
    virus scans
    Google desktop indexing
    Try a ctrl-alt-del and get the task manager running, and within that
    the resource monitor. Sort tasks by CPU, disk read, disk written,
    page fault etc till you find the culprit. By Murphy's law, in all the
    time it takes to set up the monitoring, the problem will go away.
    Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
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    http://mindprod.com
     
    Roedy Green, Apr 24, 2007
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  6. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    I have more info now. CPU usage will jump from 2% up 60% and then go back to
    3 or 4%. I am getting an error message now that says "Display driver stopped
    responding and has recovered successfully". Here's the bad news, I've gotten
    this with two different PCIe adapters, one is and Nvidia Geforce 7100GS and
    the other is an ATI X1550. Before I start disabling stuff I wanted to give
    this info as this might lead to a different solution.

    Thanks all for the help so far but I have to say this is somewhat frustrating.
     
    Poormo, Apr 24, 2007
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  7. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    We're good on indexing. It's showing complete.
     
    Poormo, Apr 24, 2007
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  8. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    Darrell,
    I did as you suggested and started by turning everything off and then
    turning on the startup progams first. The system ran fine but of course
    cetain things didn't work. I then started going through turning on services
    5 at a time. (This was a pain since there are 60+ listed and I needed to
    restart after each one.) The first time the problem reoccured was when the
    software compatibility service was added back in which really doesn't make
    sense. I unchecked it and went on to the next group of 5 and the problem
    still occured. I stopped after that. I think that before I go any farther I
    need to identify the circumstances when the problem occurs. Unfortunately it
    seems pretty random.

     
    Poormo, Apr 24, 2007
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  9. Poormo

    mikeyhsd Guest

    might need to download the latest drivers from the respective web sites.







    I have more info now. CPU usage will jump from 2% up 60% and then go back to
    3 or 4%. I am getting an error message now that says "Display driver stopped
    responding and has recovered successfully". Here's the bad news, I've gotten
    this with two different PCIe adapters, one is and Nvidia Geforce 7100GS and
    the other is an ATI X1550. Before I start disabling stuff I wanted to give
    this info as this might lead to a different solution.

    Thanks all for the help so far but I have to say this is somewhat frustrating.
     
    mikeyhsd, Apr 24, 2007
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  10. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    After I put the new video card in and got the same result I didn't think
    about the driver but I will pull down the latest version which is actully 6
    days old and see if that by chance solves the problem. I'll keep my fingers
    crossed.
     
    Poormo, Apr 24, 2007
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  11. Poormo

    mikeyhsd Guest

    if you were adding them 5 at a time, is it possible it was one of the other 5 and not the compatibility checker.







    Darrell,
    I did as you suggested and started by turning everything off and then
    turning on the startup progams first. The system ran fine but of course
    cetain things didn't work. I then started going through turning on services
    5 at a time. (This was a pain since there are 60+ listed and I needed to
    restart after each one.) The first time the problem reoccured was when the
    software compatibility service was added back in which really doesn't make
    sense. I unchecked it and went on to the next group of 5 and the problem
    still occured. I stopped after that. I think that before I go any farther I
    need to identify the circumstances when the problem occurs. Unfortunately it
    seems pretty random.

     
    mikeyhsd, Apr 25, 2007
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  12. Poormo

    Poormo Guest

    Is there any way to determine what can be stopped/removed because it looks
    like there are a lot of things loaded that may not need to be there.

     
    Poormo, Apr 25, 2007
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  13. Poormo

    mikeyhsd Guest

    I have no idea what is there, you will have to evaluate each one individually.
    you can check with google on the items to see what the are and their importance.







    Is there any way to determine what can be stopped/removed because it looks
    like there are a lot of things loaded that may not need to be there.

     
    mikeyhsd, Apr 25, 2007
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