WTF is up with the new version of Live Mail?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Qu0ll, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Qu0ll

    Qu0ll Guest

    I have just installed an update that included the latest version of Live
    Mail and am absolutely amazed at the result. Surely they are kidding? In
    newsgroups now for some reason, new items have only the author (From) field
    highlighted with bold text and the subject and other fields just in normal
    text. The result is that when you receive new items in watched threads, you
    cannot see which thread it is that has the new items unless you go through
    and expand each one manually! Surely this is a bug in my setup and can't
    really be like this?

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    Qu0ll, Apr 21, 2009
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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Qu0ll.
    No, not kidding. They just didn't think it through. :>(

    My solution (suggested by someone in the
    microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop newsgroup) is a simple News Rule
    (Tools | Message Rules). The full content of my Rule is:
    Apply this rule after the message arrives
    For all messages
    Highlight it with Default

    Some users here prefer the Highlight to be Black, but I like Default better.
    You can choose for yourself.

    RC
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    R. C. White, Apr 21, 2009
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    Paul Smith Guest

    No, its by design, its been raised quite vocally already as you can imagine
    so hopefully they'll sort it out in the next release

    If not don't worry after a few months your eyes will change shape so you can
    still see what's going on. <g>

    If I was using Windows Vista I'd just use Windows Mail - but unfortunately
    on Windows 7 like I am I've got no choice, I tried Thunderbird but that
    wasn't doing much for me.
     
    Paul Smith, Apr 21, 2009
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  4. QuOll, I have made my opinions of this ridiculous situation known to
    Microsoft and they are 'supposed' to be dealing with it. How long it takes
    them is another matter. I agree that simply highlighting the 'author' is
    ridiculous. I can't say, as you do, that i was 'absolutely amazed,' more, in
    my case, horrified.

    The whole fiasco beggars belief.

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    John Barnett MVP, Apr 21, 2009
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    Dave Guest

    I don't think anyone likes it...
    Let MSFT know...
    click on Help - Send Feedback...
     
    Dave, Apr 21, 2009
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    +Bob+ Guest

    MS knows best what you need!
     
    +Bob+, Apr 21, 2009
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  7. That's the problem, Bob, Microsoft don't know what's best they only 'assume'
    they do.

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    John Barnett MVP, Apr 22, 2009
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    +Bob+ Guest

    No, no, no... I'm sure they had a "focus group" of customers whom they
    asked leading questions with pre-supposed answers - and they got
    exactly the answers they pre-supposed, verifying that they were
    correct about the proper approach all along :)
     
    +Bob+, Apr 22, 2009
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    Chad Harris Guest

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    The reason it will take forRedmondevah is that OE, Win Mail, and Win Live
    Mail and the NNTP newsgroup reader are a Redmond free bastard step child.
    It ain't part of the cash cow franchise which is Office and Outlook. They
    have always been schlepped together with little regard for what their
    customers want. The attitude with the free mail that's the NNTP newsreader
    is "Let 'em eat cake if they ain't buyin' our cash cow."

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 22, 2009
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    Chad Harris Guest

    MSFT apparently "thinks" they know best what you should be reading because
    they have censored Bob's second message to you, and unless you hopped on it
    earlier and dragged it to that desk toppy thingy you ain't can see it now.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 22, 2009
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    +Bob+ Guest

    Wow. That's pretty funky. It wasn't particularly negative - just an
    astute observation based on actual experience gained working with them
    in the past. I guess only pro-MS posts will be tolerated here from now
    on.
     
    +Bob+, Apr 22, 2009
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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Chad.

    I don't know why you can't read Bob's second message to John. (Date: Tue,
    21 Apr 2009 21:38:45 -0400) The one about a "focus group"? I can still
    read it fine in WLM 2009.

    RC
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    R. C. White, Apr 22, 2009
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  13. It doesn't show up on my newsreader either RC

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    John Barnett MVP, Apr 22, 2009
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  14. Even if it were negative, which I can't say because I haven't seen it, I
    still cannot see a reason for pulling it.

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    John Barnett MVP, Apr 22, 2009
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    +Bob+ Guest

    Me either, but I can't see it on MS's server.
     
    +Bob+, Apr 22, 2009
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